THE COVER GIRLS or THE OTHER GIRLS?

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Fire Song said:
SEE BEFORE YOU JUDGE!!!!:wave

WELL I WOULD HAVE TO SAY IT WAS A JOY TO SEE ANGEL SINGING AND THE VOCALS WERE AWESOME AS ALWAYS. YES I HAVE SEEN BOTH AND MUST SAY ANGEL IS A MUCH BETTER ACT AND CLASSIER ONE TO GO SEE PERFORM. THE NEW GIRLS SHOULD USE AN ORIGINAL NAME AND MENTION THEY WILL BE SINGING CLASSICS BY THE ORIGINAL COVER GIRLS. I HAVE A COUSIN WHO PLAYS DRUMS FOR A LIVING AND NOT ONCE DID THEY EVER USE SOMEONE ELSE'S NAME. THEY JUST MENTION SONGS THEY WILL PERFORM AND LIST THE ORIGINAL ARTIST WHO THE SONGS ARE BY AND THE FANS RESPECT THEM FOR THIS. THEY NEVER HAD A PROBLEM AND SOME BANDS EVEN GIVE THEM PROPS FOR THIS. I AM A LITTLE UPSET THAT ANGEL DID NOT REMEMBER ME AFTER ALL THESE YEARS."IT'S ONLY BEEN 14 YEARS". SHE IS STILL FULL OF PASSION AND JOY WHEN IT COMES TO FREESTYLE MUSIC. YOU WILL NOT GET THIS WITH THE NEW GIRLS.
LATIF , YOU SHOULD JUST POST UP IF ANGEL IS PERFORMING AND IF THE NEW GIRLS ARE PERFORMING SO THEY KNOW!

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SAL ABBATIELLO OWNER OF FEVER RECORDS / FEVER ENTERPRISES SAYS:

This article Latiff wrote seems to be a personal attack on me, for what reason, I don't know, angel quit and wanted nothing to do with the group or the name , she wanted to do her own thing and I respected that, I wanted her to stay but she thought it was time to move on. But i think Latiff has a personal agenda, he told me they were dating and that he was going to handle all her affairs from then on and that she was making her own records
i wished them good luck , he said they were happy, and i was happy for her

Latiff is so hipicrical, because first of all, his clubfreestyle name under author is latiff of metropolitan records, he has not worked there for some time, should we call up Jerry the owner, second he starts off his comments with you can book acts at latiff ent. was this to promote his booking company

is he the one giving angel this advice to use other peoples ideas and businesses names to give false image, he obviously quit and so did she, but they still want to associate themselves with the names, and he also has a TKA photo on his web site with angel who is not in the group anymore i wonder what George lamond or vito bruno thinks

i have been a supporter of club freestyle as much or more than anyone the past few years and have given them much advertising, support and friendship
you know the deal and most of what you said is true
she quit in 1991 and was released from all her cover girls obligations, she did not want to be in the group anymore, she wanted out so bad, she gave up all her royalty rights and to never use the name in any shape or form, even formerly of the cover girls
she was gonna make it as a solo star and i wished her well and released her from all her contracts for no money and i could of gotten over $100,000 for her contract from epic records

when angel left the group we had our biggest record ever "wishing on a star"

Latiff fail to mention that she came back to me years later, and against all my friends advice, i helped her and signed her to a 3 year management contract with me in 1995 and she renewed it 3 times after that, which just expired in OH! 2002 just when Latiff took over, what great timing
During that time, i signed her to a a solo deal on HOLA recordings,
we released a single TOTO MATA , but it never hit radio, we worked on the album for 1 1/2 years but it never came out.
She wasn't getting any shows as a solo artist because she did not have a hit out, in the mean time i was putting together THE COVER GIRLS again with Evelyn at the lead, but i sacrificed not putting out the new group, so angel could work as the cover girls until she DID HER OWN THING but unfortunately HOLA went out of business
She meet Latiff at a show i booked her last year and about a month later i never heard from her again, no good-bye, she had Latiff call and tell me she quit, i tried to convince him to let her stay but he said she was going to do her own thing and did not want to do cover girls songs again and that he was handling all her affairs now business and PERSONAL.

now that she realized she made a mistake and cannot get any work unless she associates her name with my name THE COVER GIRLS she wants to juice my name, in fact she still use's her old marriage name clivilles of c & c music factory fame, her last name is sabater, don't she use anything of her own, must she try to work off of everyone else's success.
that's right, my name, i own the name the cover girls, trademarked since 1986 with the us patent and trademark department if any one wants to know call Washington DC us copyright register # 2,021,056

i own the name, masters, photos, videos and image, i paid i took the risk
she wrote none of the hit songs, she produced none of the songs and she never paid for a song to be made

she auditioned for the group like all the others and she quit right in the middle of one of our biggest hit's WE CANT GO WRONG and tour with NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK, JUST TO GET OUT THE GROUP but the show went on without her, even back then at there highest popularity, CAROLINE AND MARGO PERFORMED 2 SHOWS WITHOUT HER TO OVER 20,000 PEOPLE, no problem, when she heard that SHE WAS BACK 3 DAYS LATER

about not being the originals, i put out a greatest hit CD and told the whole story with all the first 6 girls, and now this is the new group, the name will go on forever, and i can put who ever i want in the group, if the public dont like it, the they will be the judge, but the new girls are beautiful talented and are making new records to keep the history alive, no misleading its in the bio its on the CD and i do have new photos of the new girls
and not to mention they killed it at Beat Stock, they even got a great write up in the Daily News

i gave her all the opportunity to stay and use the name, her new management said no and that she did not need that name or me to get her work, obviously that aint the case
or they would not be making such a big fuss
i heard from 3 different clubs just this week that THEY WERE CALLED BY LATIFF
trying to sabotage the shows, but it did not happen, they want the cover girls, and these are the girls who are the cover girls
and when they leave there will be some other girls, its my creation and i could do what i want with it
i have been one of the pioneers of freestyle and still am, who is latiff and where did he come from and what did he ever do PERSONALLY
just a player hater trying to discredit all the good work i did for the 17 years that i been supporting freestyle

"THERE'S NO ONE THAT GAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO LOCAL TALENT AND KIDS WITH NO EXPERIENCE THAN I DID"

And finally Evelyn does not lip sing, there are no lead vocals on the show tapes, the other girls sing live over the background vocals, just like every other cover girl and Angel did since 1986 and so does almost every other track artists,
for everyone's information most background vocals are done by hired studio singers

I even heard that angel is using those tapes, which fever records owns the master 's too, which i allow her to do so, maybe she should go in and record her own new ones
that's right they want the original sound too, but fever records owns them, not any former member of the cover girls
she is the only one using it because she cant get work without it, as a solo artist using her own name "angel sabater"

she quit and she wanted no part of it, then why is she so upset over the new girls, if you think they are fake or the other ones, WHAT'S IS IT TO HER OR LATIFF, go on with your life and make your own hits, i wish you luck, latiff her manager should concentrate on her future and not her past, come on big man make your first hit
no one can take away that she was an original member of the cover girls and she was great and i thought she would be a star, she had the talent and the personality, she was one of my favorites, but she wanted out and to never have anything to do with the group or the name, i guess it just didn't work out like she or latiff planned

but now some other people must have some hidden agenda's, like trying to make money off of some one else's idea, that's why there is the trademark law, for situations like this
to protect me and my idea

i still enjoy seeing the temptations, tramps, supremes, drifter's,Harold Melvin and the blue notes( his dead and they still use his name) everyone knows they are not the originals, they just love the music, there are sold out concerts all the time
HOW COME NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT TKA OR ALL THE OTHER GROUPS WHO SWITCH MEMEBERS LIKE EXPOSE,PAJAMA PARTY,SWEET SENSATION,SUGAR HILL GANG, OR SEDUCTION

THE MUSIC WILL LIVE FOREVER, THE SINGERS IN THE GROUPS MAY COME AND GO, THE PUBLIC DECIDES IF THEY WANT TO SEE THE SHOW OR NOT,
WE NEVER NOW OR EVER REPRESENT THAT THE GROUP ARE NOT THE MEMBERS THEY ARE
COVER GIRLS just did channel 11 morning show with all live singing, they signed autographs for 1 hour, on there own photos, they also did Beat Stock with over 30,000 and was one of only a few to get a great review in the daily news

the new group is great and put on a great show and no one has been disappointed except
Latiff , king of freestyle, get a life
 
Sal was having trouble posting. So he emailed in and requested help.. which we extend to any member. Notice I credit the author in the thread. At no time will we choose a side.. but we will help in website matters to whoever requests it.

This wont be ongoing.. I cant continue to post for Sal, lol But I will be working with him on his CF account so he can post up to his peeps.
 
Chuck,Angel has every right to sing those songs.Just beause you leave a group it does not mean you loose the rights to sing those songs.It's part of what you are.Example,Prince or Madonna have a cocert,because they left a label ,they cant sing their past hits?come on get real,Angel sang The Cover girls top hits(and should be acknowledged)has every right to sing those songs.Believe me,if there was two concerts at the same time,one called The new cover girls and the other Angel of the cover girls,Angel's will have a huger audience!
Latif is just letting us know this so we wont be fooled!Angel and other artists must sing older material,so their new ones can be heard
too.
 
I think everyone is missing the point! Angel left the group to do her own thing! Let her do her own thing!!! It doesn't make sense to leave a group because of a desire to branch off, then fight to do the songs anyway! Madonna and Prince paid a lot of money for those masters so there is no comparison. That is why they can perform those songs. No one is being fooled. The promoters know who they are getting and anyone who knows who the Cover Girls are can see with their own eyes that these girls are not Angel, Margo or Caroline. Unless by some miracle of the gods they have been cloned. Why is this an issue all of a sudden? Didn't Evelyn of the new group replace Angel years back. Not a word. The new group has been performing for about a year already. It has just been very, very recent that we hear this news for the sake of us fans. Pleeeze!!! It's not the fans who started it. Could it be because of all the positive feedback that the girls are getting on their shows. Sounds like a money and pride issue. Not a moral issue. This is show biz.:confused
 
Again I have to weigh in. Fire Song, the basic point of this whole thing is not to see who has what right to sing this or that song. The issue was that the current act is promoting themselves using Angel's image. Period. That's the entire basis for this whole thread. Nothing more nothing less. But since it has been taken in so many angles, that issue is being overlooked.
 
DJ_Kazzeo, I haven't seen any of Angels photo's being used for the new group. But if it happened, it may be the club's fault.

As for singing, she can sing the songs. I am sure permission was granted to her BUT from I heard, she quit the group. I mean, when DAVID LEE ROTH left WAN HALEN, he still sang the classics when he was on tour, along with his new material BUT he did NOT go around calling himself "DAVID LEE ROTH FORMERLY OF VAN HALEN". He used his own name by itself and went on from there.
 
If that is indeed the whole point of this thread then I without doubt agree! However looking at most of the posts and the one beginning with Latif, I don't see that as the only issue. If the new group discontinues the use of past Cover Girl photos will this truly be over?? With that said, I bow out of this thread gracefully, for neither Angel or the Cover Girls pay my rent to offer another minute on the topic. I thank everyone for letting me speak my peace without hostility!!:hearton
 
Thanks Everyone For Your Response!

I haven't checked the post regarding The Cover Girls or The Other Girls since I last posted it. I received a called from a friend of mine who told me to check it out. Angel and myself read each of the replies and were really surprised by the response. You all have done a very wonderful and honerable thing by sincerely stating your opinions. I never meant for this to become a debate and therefore had no reason to respond to the negatives. I asked for opinion and that's what I got, and for that we thank each and every one of you. On behalf of myself, Angel and the entire La'Entertainment staff. God Bless. Sincerely Latif Mercado.

PS. Sorry about the deception regarding my Metropolitan signature, it's just that I don't know how to delete it, Jack Help!:stoned
 
La-

It would be nice if Angel posted something herself.

As a matter of fact, tell her that she needs to register for a screen name and make her presence known.

Hell, if Nyasia, Ayna, Ashely, Sam Savon, etc. etc. etc. can visit every now and then, she should too!

However, if she's already a member, then disregard this post.

"Rhythm's got me moving on the dancefloor.....Tora Mata Y Tora Mata"
 
A refreshing update...

I just received my e-mail update from Chicago's Chromium NightClub. Their promotional picture for their upcoming Cover Girls event has been updated. The picture featuring Angel, Margo and Caroline has been replaced by the all new picture of Evelyn Escobedo and two others. From what I understand, the original picture was used because another was not available at the time. Now, the new girls are up and posted. You can see it online at www.chromiumniteclub.com .

If all promoters followed Dino and Company's lead, this won't be as big of an issue.

Harv Roman
 
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lol,

la chinita, la negrita and now this.

I can so see angel with a smirk as she slowly smokes her cigarete.

anyone can sing a song, but not everyone has a respect like a latinhiphop/freestyle queen.

JONPITO

and i am quickly RUNNING away from this post,lol.
 
I have to walk a fine line here since both Latif & both Sal A & B have allowed me behind the scenes treatment at clubs more than once. I will say this when I myself think of the "Cover Girls" I have always and will always think of Angel. I recently spoke to her in June at Club DNA here in Queens NY and told her that her, her music and that voice are timeless and that she has meant so much to me and others who follow the music.
On the other hand though I took the liberty of checking out the patent # that was supplied in a previous post by Sal Abbatiello and the name is indeed protected. In closing I for one am not big on replacing singers but I am for an owner doing as he pleases with his property. I say no more.:confused :confused :confused

http://www.members.aol.com/freejack00
 
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