why HIP HOP is bigger than FREESTYLE

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lilitaliana........I thought you meant GAY FREESTYLE ARTISTS!!!! i just found out another artist was gay today...........but its all good!
 
sorry,lilitaliana..........it was meant towards Toni's remark......that i only knew 1 gay (i mean BI) freestyle artist. but now i know of another!
 
Hiya Kenny.......I'm sorry......miscommunication.......I know only one gay freestyle artist....gay rappers.......alot!!!!!!
 
1 gay freestyle artist???? where the heck have u been??? i will have to private message u some time about the others...so u can be shocked like i was!!!!! i wont post them cause thats not right, lol!!!! 😀
 
they are gay homosexual freestyle artists,they have ben gay and bisexual rappers just hidding it,they have been gay rockers and you know what I have never seen a gay music section and everyone I know that is hetrosexual likes freestyle but gays i know like r&b and techno even rock but don't care much for freestyle however most gays i know love the artist formerly known as prince most.those guys huge prince maniacs!GOD Bless,Omar 😉
 
HIP HOP & FREESTYLE

As someone mention in a latter post, freestyle was once billed as LATIN HIP HOP...see first there was disco, then gradually hip hop came about into the so called "spotlight" ...take the FEVER in the BX..Fever was a disco club at first right? (DISCO FEVER??) Disco is no more hip hop steps up into the light and BAM takes over where disco was left behind, right?
WRONG
Freestyle has ALWAYS as far as im concerned been a ceratin "lost" part of hip hop..meaning..
REMEMBER The movie BEAT STREET (1983..see it if u havent already)
Well a ceratin TINA B and BRENDA K STARR were featured in that particular film..singing and hell brenda even rapped..my point being..after disco there was hip hop...alot of people went for a dance vibe..but nothing was really labeled "dance music" until later on..EVERTHING UNDERSTAN THIS EVERYYYYTHING has a "label"
these freestyle singers who once rapped on tracks were sorta multitalented..alot of them started out rapping yanno?
FEVER RECORDS once put out both hip hop and dance records..
why hip hop "outshines" freestyle? hmm bigger budgets, more of an established fan base ( us all aside cause lord knows growing up in brooklyn i ate slept and dreamt hip hop and freestyle) and suburbanized youth who never lived that "thug life" its like role playing for them..noone wants to sing about love anymore, everyone sings about guns and drugs, for an odd reason its been like that for a while...back in the days hip hop and freestyle were hand in hand because it was all about the music, dancing, partying your A$$eS off non stop, and when the fun faded for some, freestyle faded too...introducing THUG HOP as i bill it..
Believe me i used to DJ, I started at 11 yrs old and djayed until i was 1996 when I was 22..wanna know why, cause i was sick of playing bullshit music..i longed for the "back in the day" type feel that i was no longer feeling and it saddened me and still does which is probably why i am a stubborn old school loving fool......
i tried to explain it the best i can..guess im just a sucker for the old skool! So if you are under 21 and a freestyle junkie, just do ur homework and know ya roots as far as the music is concerned and remember the artists u grew up loving never got the credit they deserved..screw j lo, ricky and marc antony, cause to me the latino expplosion happened wayyy wayyy ewayy yb4 any of them, and they arent even all that on the mic...my girl judy torres, george lamond, sa fire, johnny o, corina, lissette melendez..etc...
baby that was the TRUE LATIN EXPLOSION YA FEEL ME????????????????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
O L D S K O O L R U L E S!!!
TODAY
TOMORROW
FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
Proyecto1 ...........ARTIST FORMERLY KNOW AS PRINCE? He dont go by that anymore!!! he has been going by "PRINCE" for the past year or 2 allready. his battle is over and so is the copyrighted name. he is back to PRINCE!!
 
DIDNT SOUND LIKE YA WERE MAKIN A POINT!

BEAT STREET (1983..see it if u havent already)


PROMOTION OR WHAT?

Kenny you shouldn't say "we" as a collective..this site is way to big to be speaking on everone's behalf...
i was just trying to make a point..
 
In addition, hip hops break through to world domination was the fact that hip hop merged with other genres like RUN DMC w/Aerosmith recorded/re rapped Walk This Way which became the first top 10 single for a rap artist which pulled white middle class surburbia in to the hip hop fanspace along with the first white rappers; The beastie Boys, and more pop oriented rappers like Young MC, Tone Loc, Hammer, LL Cool J. Therefore in the 90's when hip hop was moving towards the harder sounds, those fans followed along since mainstream stations like Z100 and even AOR stations like K-Rock was playing some hip hop. Basicly hip hop sells great because it can merge with other genres like for example Mary J is New Jack or Hip Hop soul, Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit are Hip Hop metal, Incibus is hip hop/rock fusion. Even Nsuck and Britney have The Neptunes produce music for them.
 
Hip hop will always have an audience because there will always be pissed off kids runnig around looking for ways to rebel, whether it be at their parents, their teachers or the police or gov't, so long as there is angst there will be hip hop.
yup.

You got it right there, Kenny. It's all about attitude and it's all about image. You got a bunch of kids who always gotta be hard up. And when you're a kid, you wanna be bad. And hip hop heads are always quick to diss other music. Makes others feel uncool, or "gay" as someone here mentioned before. So the others join the hip hop bandwagon. They learn to like the beats, they learn to dance to it. That's how I figure it got so popular; 'cus I that's what I went through.
so true.

Let me tell you that it is very real.There is no love in the streets.It is very violent and unfair.Once u are in the system there is very little chance to get out.I am not a bleeding heart democract that uses cliches to explain my points.I own a rap label,I develop rappers,I am from the street also.What rap does for my people is to give them an outlet for their stress and violent natures.I have only worked with real thugs and believe me mayn they are for real when it comes to violence.I see them bumping their rap music especially when they are sad.Missing friends,hurt from fighting,sad from living in broken homes with parents addicted to drugs many of whom buy the drugs(or **** for them)from their childrens friends.I know quite a few that have 4 generations of family in and out of the Prison system.Did you know that for the last 100 years there has been a quiet civil war in mexico?Over the last 20 years it has spread itself to the US and manifested itself into two major street gangs.These things Im writing are real.Its up to u to believe me or not.BTW its not any cheaper to make rap that it is to make a freestyle song.Studio time costs the same at most places.Its just that these rappers have been ballin and can afford it.While most freestyle singers have delusions of grandeur just waiting to be discovered and fiananced.

while that may be true in some cases, there is so much out there that is not true. i know a rapper in california with a hardcore gangsta rap CD out, he is on the front cover with 2 expensive cars, gold chains everywhere, diamonds, AND THE REALITY IS HE HAS A PIECE OF
SH!T 80's CAR AND LIVES AT HOME WITH HIS MOM AND DAD!!!
hahahahahahahahahahaha! true story. and i've heard more.

And as for Rappers keeping it "real"...
How come they lie or dream about something that they say they did and then talk about it in order to make money?
yup, just like i said above.

and who said 'Rap is cheap and easy to make', u see that's the kind of closed-mindness that has kept freestyle from getting any bigger, Rap, Hip-Hop, R&B have all evolved and gotten better with the times...
I love Freestyle Music, 'old-school' this so-called NEW FREESTYLE Music is just trying to imitate the old and it's not progressing at all, they need to get a style of their own and try to cater to the younger crowd <---- They're the ones buying the records that are making these Rap artists rich.
some of you just don't get it do you. if you really had open minds you would have noticed and accepted the new freestyle which has progressed, mostly on the west coast. the Angelina's, Rosalinda's, Sharyn Maceren's, Jocelyn Enriquez's, Kenny Freestyle's, Damia's, many of these artists put out a new sound years ago that sounds much more today than most of the new freestyle that is mentioned on this messageboard. you are so stuck on the old school sound. you are the one who needs openmindedness, if some of you did, then maybe you would have heard freestyle on the radio there like we did on the west coast in the mid90's through the new millenium. i can't believe some of you complain about the new freestyle not progressing yet you bring up sh!tty new songs that don't compare to some of the good new sound that was actually developed on the west coast a few years ago. you seem to be stuck on that old sound that new artists are putting out that while techinically new, sounds like the same old sound trying to be remade. and about your comment of the young kids buying the songs, when Angelina came out I was working in a record store at the time and all that were buying it were young teens to about 35 years old. but a huge amount of young people who listen to our local hip hop station when they played Angelina back then.
 
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