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no its not a comment. its a philosophy that the media has given this generation and the one before it since vietnam. that everyone in this generation subscribes too hook line and sinker. just like or parents did during vietnam


when all you gotta do is let the goverment do its job with the right leader not some scum pag pervert. with the right leader. and in time it works out.

this war is over.

time to concentrate on immagration africa and stopping al quada there. beating china economically and destroying north korea.
 
and the arabs should consider themselves lucky. that this is happening during a time which an american generation really has no moral authority. cuase of our own pervisions and lack of morality.


cuase had this happened during our gradparents generation. those people didnt screw around or wonder why a bomb fell here or there.

those people would of dropped the A bomb in a week.

like the did with the japs.


that generation were born killers. they waxxed 5 million germans and 1 million japs.


i miss my grandfather and my grandmother i miss that generation. they never once

in their lives nor really no one in that generation that i have ever met ever once i cought them saying.


well what about this or maybe waht about that ? or what happened if this would happen.

in the 15 years my grandparents where alive which was the ww 2 generation. they never once that i remembered. ever thought 50 50 about anything. or twice about defending this country. or what anyone thought. in fact they hated the rest of the world unlike us. they viewed the world as communist.

they didnt have no need for globalism or one world. they only cared about who in the world fights for freedom and who dont.

and everytime i asked my grandfather about the wars. he said everytime it had to be done. never got him to flinch on anything in 15 years i knew him.

what a difference today lllllolll

thats why im behind bush he happily reminds me of them. the reagan generation. the ww 2 generation.

and the arabs should be considered very lucky very.

that there offspring 70 years later. is consumed top to bottom with political correctness and indesiveness. and lack of moral authority. and lack belief in anything or trust.

cuase of there offpsring or granchildren were even half the men there grandparents were. half?

the middle east would be vaporized right now llloll.


but its 2005 not 1945.

so the game goes on but we ll win cuase in time. the real americans will show itself.

theres to much hisotry here in battle war and victory for us keep shying away from this

llloll
 
you know i expect this anti war stuff from minorities. or peole who got here just the other day. or vietnam generation. cuase they lost there war so they tryto screw everything up since. the only american generation to looose a war.

but when you get the sons and daughters of ww 2 people questioning this. its amazing.


its amazing boy the number that vietnam did on this country is amazing.

but not everyone buys vietnam or the media.

cuase we got soilders out there. who are not afraid nor buy the media marching orders. nor care about what the liberals say. there taking it straight to this nations enemies.

and its an entire volunteer force. thats tells ya that the media looses in the long run.

cuase a generation of americans is destryoign tis enemies. regardless of what the media says.

and not just any generation the generation which is the sons and daughters of the generation they

first contimanted. and first weakened. the vietnam generation or baby boomers.

they got to them. but they didnt get to there kids.


becuase there kids are out there fighting in a volunteer force. this is what makes the media and the liberals eat there pillow at night.

that the kids our out there fighting.

not smoking dope like there vietnam decendants did. not smoking weed in battle. not carrying peace signs while carrying an m 16's like vietnam vets did. not looosing in battle like vietnam vets did.

no getting shot to come home like vietnam vets did. not bad mouthing the war like vietnam vets did.


these kids are out there slugging it out. and makeing the media look bad day after day after day.

thats why they go for abu grave and gitmo.


cuase they cant get to these kids. like they did to there parents.

these kids are the next great generation.

like they said greatness skips a generation.


what kids man. what valor. what belief. id gladly share my dinner table with anyone of them.

before id let a scum bag baby boomer or vietnam draftie or media type in my house.


what kids man what kids.
 
Brklyn345 said:
I get my information from TIME magazine...as far as your "sky is falling" comment goes, maybe you may dismiss it as paranoia...but it's gonna keep me ALIVE
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i stay away from the mainstream media
 
face it brklyn you and people like you are fighting a loosing battle.

the media has lost this round and is loosing it. and in the mean time its looosing an entire generation. this generation of kids has failed to drop there rifles like their parents did? this generation of fighters hasnt turn agsint the war. the media failed drastically in getting college kids to protest anything. the media failed drmatically in that vote or die crap.

the media time magazine ny times la time washington post has failed monstrously in getting this generation of soilders to bad mouth its commander and chief. with decisions in combat and war. and with WMD decisions. with abu grade. or gitmo.

over and over and over again the media fails and fails and fails to find anything that sticks to this president. and that inspires the youth of this country to protest the war.

and the media has failed to seduce a whole generation of soilders like it did with the hippie vietnam era.

in short the media has lost a whole gneration as I posted before. cuase weve had 8 years of bush.

and when these kids come back from the war. in 07 08 09.

there gonna have a big a score to setlle with the media.


my suspicion is they will influnce a whole generation to turn away from it.

by then well have satellite channels everywhere.

the media's influnece over policy is finsihed thats for sure lllllllllolllll. as demonstrated by gwb.

and the medias inlufnce over opinion is wwaining or the beging to the end?

and in 4 years the new media in general

will be something what it was before 1960.

just a mild institution that gives you the news at night lllllllollll.

but has no influeunce over opinion or much less policy.


thats why i love gwb
 
you dont see it brklyn cuase i know your not a down the road type? based on some of your posts. your more of a sky is falling today type. i know but thats typical of people today. they dont have down the road vision like me.


you dont see it but i do. its in its baby steps. but the mainstream media is loosing its ability to influence opinion. and the beg of that is that they already soundly have lost there ability to inluence policy.

thats finsihed.


but now there looosing there ability to inluence opinion

its in its baby steps. like it was in its baby steps in 1960. there inluence over policy.

well the reeverse is in its baby steps.


the mainstream media is slowly looosing a whole generation. very slowly very very slowly.

thats why no body sees it.

But i do? i see it cuase the first sign.

is that they can no longer have the ability to command or influence policy. white house policy. bush dosnt even listen to them. he just does what ever he feeels like doing.

It use to be that a president would do whatever the media said. cuase if not it would release a poll with 2000 people asked. and it would inluence the election.

but polls these days are irrelevant. or there looosing revelency.

that guided policy for decades in the white house.

well nobody listens to La times polls ny times polls wash post polls time mag posts.

Nobody Cares. nobdy gives a sshit what 1500 people in a controll group thought about anything lllllolll.

dont you see? or policy would have been changed a while ago.

so they cant inlfunce u.s. policy no more. they cant inluence with polls no more.

whats next?

well ill admit they still have a good foothold on opinion but its no longer a strangle hold like it was in decades passed. for the first time ever its slowly weakening.

there done tooo !!!!

llllolll

so id say start getting a more patriotic view of your country lllloll. and drop that sky is falling.

i got you i got you. see? see? what you said media corner tatics.

cuase not only dosnt work no more. not only does noone listen to them anymore.

for the first time i think its slowly out of style.

people just trust this man. and they trust the plan.

sorry.
 
you see here is a perfect example

whos care what the poll is about or what the opinion is or anything here i could easily argue this poll is incorrect.


but anyway it dosnt matter what the poll is. i put this here to prove my point. the point i have been getting fed ever since high school. and i have questioned it ever since. and never bought it then?

still dont buy it is an adult i dont give a crap how many computers you got. or how scientific it is? or

how this or that ???

how can 1500 people speak for a whole nation. read this poll. at the bottom it says 1503 people were questioned. this is how they controll all of you. the media. they do it with polls.

they ask 1500 people they wanna choose. no body even questions who these people are? and all they do is ask 1500 of them

and then they come out with a story next day saying this or that.


my point is this is the gensis the nuclues of how they try to controll our opinions with polls. not polls

but polls of 1500 f****ing people. thats suppose to tell you how

280 000 000 million people think.

thats the problem with the media and liberals they are disconnected from reality. and from real america.

but read anyway

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WASHINGTON - A growing number of Americans fear the war in Iraq is undermining the fight against terrorism and raising the risk of terrorist attacks in this country, a poll found.

Almost half, 47 percent, say the war in Iraq has hurt the fight against terrorism — the highest number to say that since the war began in March 2003, according to the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press.

And about the same number, 45 percent, said soon after the first round of subway bombings in London that the war in Iraq was raising the risk of terrorism in this country. That’s up from 36 percent last fall.
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Overall support unchanged
But increased doubts about the effects of the Iraq war have not had much of an effect on overall support for the continuing effort to establish Iraq’s attempts at democracy. About half the public, 52 percent, favors staying in Iraq until the country is stabilized and about the same number, 49 percent, support the decision to go to war.

The number who support the decision to go to war has not changed much during the year.

People are evenly divided on whether a timetable should be set on withdrawal from Iraq.

Hopes remain high that the United States can eventually establish a stable government in Iraq, with six in 10 saying they think a stable government will be established and just a third said the U.S. will fail.

Only a fourth of those polled, 27 percent, said President Bush has a clear plan for bringing the situation in Iraq to a successful conclusion. That’s the lowest number on that measure since the start of the war.

The poll of 1,502 adults was taken July 13-17 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
© 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 
1502 adults.


and when ever anyone questions this? not even a second later they shut you up saying oh its scientific. its with computers. its all been prooven. where? proooven how? they had bush looosing and all of the u.s. re elected him.


how do 1500 people speak for a whole nation. i think they need to ask

280 million people.

they guys abuse the polls and twist them so they can influence public opinion.
 
not only did all of us relected him. the only people who voted for that idiot that almost got everybody in his skiff boat killed.

was the inner cities. i dont like posting web sites or lines or things i find on the web like these guys do. cuase i dont believe in prooving anybody wrong or right. just showing them the error of there ways llloll.

and i dont belive in cornering nobody in deabtes. just showing them a better way.

but take a look at this

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/

shows you all the red counties.

all of us did vote for him. the ones that didnt. are inner city minotiries people. and i forgot

how important they are.

the fly over states want this nation defended the map shows you that ??

the people next to the ocean dont want the country defended maybe cuase they think they can jump in the ocean if anything happened.

all of us wanted him llllloll
 
rbonuc...you are totally missing the point....you accuse me of not having a "down the road view"...in this day and age, we have no guarentee whatsoever that you and I will be here down the road if we put blind faith into anything...and that includes our government...you said earlier it's 2005 not 1945...here's a news flash for you: weapons have evolved. Technology has evolved...back in 1945, the country was so paranoid back then as well, but you know what? We were able to weed out the nazis and the commies living among us...not so in 2005....DTA rbonuc....DON'T TRUST ANYBODY
 
rbonuc29 said:
not only did all of us relected him. the only people who voted for that idiot that almost got everybody in his skiff boat killed.

was the inner cities. i dont like posting web sites or lines or things i find on the web like these guys do. cuase i dont believe in prooving anybody wrong or right. just showing them the error of there ways llloll.

and i dont belive in cornering nobody in deabtes. just showing them a better way.

but take a look at this

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/

shows you all the red counties.

all of us did vote for him. the ones that didnt. are inner city minotiries people. and i forgot

how important they are.

the fly over states want this nation defended the map shows you that ??

the people next to the ocean dont want the country defended maybe cuase they think they can jump in the ocean if anything happened.

all of us wanted him llllloll
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I have no idea what you're trying to say... :confused
 
im not trying to say anything. just look at the map of people that voted. theres nothing to say. its tells you the hole thing. that the fly over states. states that planes fly over. states that nobody cares about. all voted for bush. look at the map.

and the states that voted for kerry are th usual suspects minority filled states. that would vote for democrat michigan wisconnson cali ny nj conn rhode is mass

cuase they want there gov programs. even if we were being invaded by martians.

look at the map.
 
brklyn you wanna know something. ill tell you a secret and by this maybe im telling you to much and prob am. but theres nothing about this day and age that scares me. not one of the crazy things we see these days scares me or has made me change my view of humanity all that much. i think deep down the way things use to be. is dieing to come out.

and bush is the first step on that road.

the only thing about this day and age. that really scares me. i would say 95 percent of all my fears about this day and age?


is that you can fire me when ever you like. that scares the crap out of me. im 35 its still scares me. it did when i was 25. it didnt when i was 18 or 17.

cuase those were the 80's and in those days we still had some employment security. and it wasnt that easy to can some one yet. like it became in the 90's

but once we entered the 90's i noticed employees are like chicken feed.

and that is the only thing that scares me about this day and age. and its what keep me going till i hit my mark of 150 k to about 200 k. and then i could care less if you fire mr or not. cuase the interest covers me.

but you know something brklyn theres very little else that scares me about this day and age.

wether its terrosism or road rage. or that some one can f**** me over.

or really anything else. i really am unimpressed by this "day and age" comments and fears really.

except for getting fired.

thats one thing that i fear and yes am paranoid about this day and age. the rest i find just phase were going through.

but this stuff with no employment security. im wondering if well ever pass that phase as a society.

but really all the other stuff you see im convinced its phase were all going through in society and it will pass.

thats my true belief.
 
I'm quite aware of the map.... don't really understand your "minority" reference.... :confused i see the blue states as real working families that are in tune with real life & actually give a crap & think things could & should be better across the board.... the red states to me are clueless brainwashed right winged religious backwards thinking and would vote for bush even if we were being invaded by aliens..... 🙂
 
lloll

funny i see the opposite of what you see. i see those blue states as a bunch of parasite that were voteing for there benefits. and not for the benefit of the country. while in the mean time. the right wing religous crowd voted for security. and for moral leader.

and by the way everybody works hard in this country. even the mice do?

you should see how hard this mouse thats in my walls has to work at night from 1 am to 5 am to find food.
 
rbonuc29 said:
lloll

funny i see the opposite of what you see. i see those blue states as a bunch of parasite that were voteing for there benefits. and not for the benefit of the country. while in the mean time. the right wing religous crowd voted for security. and for moral leader.

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well I see the exact opposite.... me in a blue state voting less for my benefit & more for what would be a better situation for everybody.... folks in a red kansas, texas, montana voting for their own benefit and shitting on the rest of the country..... hey it's 2 different ways of looking at it.... we aint gonna agree & thats cool, but it bugs me when u say security & moral leader, suicide bombing last week, woohoo secure world!!!!!!!! more american troops dying & suicide bombings in Iraq under this leader..... war is all he knows... so when u say moral leader in the same breath it's just hypocritical.....
 
Yo Rbonuc....u should hold ya own conference for all u've written in this thread!
 
nu jerz

with the amount of problems you guys have in crotia. the last thing you should be worried about is how much ive written in this thread. you guys have yet to find your war criminals.


sietz. more secure. kerry would of made this place more secure. a guy who risked his whole crews life just so he could get three medals. then shot a child in the back as he was running away. thats real moral. and real secure. then was throw out of vietnam transfered back home? and in those days no body went home unless shot lloll.

if he hadnt gone to war in iraq sietz. right now youd be starering at super arab state easily. and an arab bomb cuase ben laden would have made it to pakistan if not for afganistan war.

the problem with you guys is you see only what you wanna see. but not the real threat thats out there.

and since your use to clinton who would explain everything to you in perfect detail. and try to sell you crap. and be all over the place on every single issue. and not make any hard decisions.

thats why you hate bush.

cuase he make politically incorrect. but correct decisions. and he dosnt tell you nothing or xplain it to you. cuase if he did. explain the threats you guys would shit in your pants every day in your life instead of just one day ?

who knows how much bush has prevented. by the two wars. and by his aggresive action.

who knows how far al quada was and where??

the problem is he dosnt tell you nothing. so you think theres no results.

cuase you guys are like that. you guys are accountability generation the information generation.

and since he deprives you of ? it. you guys get mad like litte kids

wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa llloll crying in a crib llloll.

wwwwwwwaaaaa why dosnt he tell us what hes doing.

grow up lloll !!!

the guy saved your asses and you dont even know it. like i said always said and will continue to say.

go back to playing with your cell phones. and your segas. and your suv's. and leave the business of defending to real men and women.

and stop questioning those who are keeping all of us alive. and how they are doing it.

like i said go back to vieiwing desperate house wives and checking how manyminutes you have left on your cell phone.

if you were really serious about defending your country. you would nt question one thing hes done. cuase it has been right on track with

demolishing islam extremism and stopping rouge states. so i dont know what the problem is?

but like you said we aint gonna agree & thats cool llloll i agree lloll.
 
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