Rap Music Is Dead

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bigMARC said:
in other words stop bitchin' and make yerself heard y'all. GO TO THE SHOWS and support!! Call the effin radio station and request a freestyle track and not a tired ass one neither. Also Rock the vote '04 too.

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tHOSE Are probly the truest words said , We are all thats left of freestyle if we dont start makin seriouse moves quick. Less talk and more action has to be taken or the freestyle game will be memory! On a brighter note 2004 has been a pretty good year for freestyle, lots of projects comming out of the East Coast lately and Here in the West , We have about 4 that I know of still in the making!
 
I Know I Am Doing What I Have To Do For Freestyle. I Am Supporting It 100%.
 
In response to 1sxychica's comment about all the clubs playing rap and reggae. This may be true for some clubs, but real clubs still play electronica. Just go to South Beach and you'll see. Trance and house is #1 there. And I can think of a bunch of clubs in DC that play trance.
 
My take on rap being dead:

Not in a longshot; it is reinventing itself all the time and of course catering and contributing to pop culture trends has always been a factor.

Deejays abandoned playing freestyle; that was the first problem; Little Louie Vega evolved and became his own musical entity with Kenny Dope and went on to create a whole new genre of house (nuyrorican soul) This was huge. While we lost one of the most influential deejays while this genre was poppin; House and Hip hop became the craze. Hip hoppers chimed in with this genre and we didn't seem to fit in anymore between the two genres of music.
Racism played a big part in it as well; K7 mentioned us not being black enough and being too Hispanic. Indeed this is true; Breakdancing one of the original elements of hip hop was dominated by latino's; so was Graffitti; somehow both of these arts disappeared and became underground for the purists and too street for the mainstream. That was the first strike against the latinos (we made transit design those new aluminum bodied trains so that the graffiti could come off with ease)
The labels tried to force freestylers to go pop; the whole sound changed and the voices sounded ridiculous over these newly produced pop oriented tracks. Hip hoppers have always kept it street; utilized every genre Even house (hip house) rnb and reggae; we first heard biggie on mary jays track (look up in the sky it's a bird.............) they created hype with illegal mix tapes and convinced the labels that these street tapes were part of this culture and was a great avenue to market new talent (dmx was out on mix tape for a year with where my dawgs at before signing a deal) and this was orchestrated by his agent! Brilliant.
K7, Kayel............if anything you were hot on the trail; your hooks (like scars of love......people always talk about the bad things that u done; but I can't leave you girl cause...............) had a hip hop element. I hear it yet again when you had michelle visage on the song Crash. And Maria was heavily hip hop influenced. Carlos Berrios as well; looped that breakbeat and followed suit with hip hop loops on top of very creative drum programming. The street edge was there.
Our deejays cowered and didn't support it; we lost our cool.
Maybe if I shot Kayel or murdered a fellow freestyle artist or admitted to being involved with drug cartels or financed my record empire with extortion and drug money we'd garner some type of attention.
Some have gone on to do great things; Little Louie Vega Kenny Dope (teamed up) ,Tony Moran and Albert Cabrera parted ways but jumped on the house scene and have been sought after remixers/Producers whom have worked with the likes of whitney houston and the jackson family.

Kayel invented K7 and made noise on the other side of Freestyle.

Slowly things that made the genre popular are returning; Edit Mixes are on the rise 🙂-) Mixed compilations are utilizing grand wizard extreme editors and mastermixers. The production has been stepped up. Promoters are battling again; Deejays like Paradise and the file continue to support and play this music no matter what the !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! anyone says (and for free)! There are websites dedicated to freestyle and artists back in the recording studio.
The fans are talking alot and doing very little; Nu Image dropped a very well produced Album and the fans have yet to speak out and spend some money to support this masterpiece. You can count the people that show up to the record release parties and so called huge events.
Lack of fan support equals lack of venues that will book the artists for shows or demand the deejay fit the music into the format. Lack of fan support equals little to no respect from the program directors at the radio station. Lack of fan support equals extreme editors to go on into other genres of music, become deejays/producers remixers and stay put in these other genres where fans still spend some money.

We have fans because of forums such as this; there's a tight knit community and there's much love here and elsewhere on the other forums. Some fans work tirelessly to promote this music and it is greatly appreciated. Our little community isn't making that dent and it's unfortunate cause you guys are trying. The dollars in the end are what speaks volumes and until that happens we will remain invisible to everyone else out there.
 
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Now it's time to call favors in; media, press, industry personnel; them interns looking to make a name for themselves. Become independent labels and put your own shit out; eventually these bigwig a$$holes will get greedy and want a piece of the change; but untill that happens it remains our problem.
Damon Dash; Suge Knight, Master P, Dr Dre at one point or another told the industry to go Ufck themselves and created their own independent lables and put out the music themselves; look at where they are now.
Everyone's waiting for something to happen instead of stepping up to the plate!
IMO Mic Mac has made the first move in getting BMG/Sony for distribution. This can only help others who want to hear more of this music; If u go to the record store a month later and nothing new is out from bmg/sony and you see something similar from an independent label in that section........you'd be surprised at what that can do!
 
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Thanks Dave and K7 for some great insight. One of the things that I agree so strongly is the comments made refrencing the support and lack of. We need to come together and support one another and build this music to where it really should be. On that note, Nu Image will be making an appearance in Lancaster PA for a show hosted by WLCH 91.3 Radio Central. This radio station is 1 of 5 Public Latin based radio stations in the country and has a live freestyle show, so come support and show some appreciation to a station that has keep freestyle as part of their rotation. Below are the details:

Date: Saturday April 3, 2004
Time: Doors open at 9m
Location:
"The Lounge"
Days Inn
30 keller ave
lancaster, PA 17602

Hosted by
DJ Dann Mar & John B


Join Nu Image for a great show and good times. Also help keep a passion for music going. IF freestyle is an error then yes it did die but if it is a love for music then freestyle will never die.
 
Correction

when I wrote "Join Nu Image for a great show and good times. Also help keep a passion for music going. IF freestyle is an error then yes it did die but if it is a love for music then freestyle will never die."

I meant to say:
IF freestyle is an ERA then yes it did die but if it is a love for music then freestyle will never die and continue to live forever."

Sorry i did not mean error, I meant era. I talk in english but think in spanish.
 
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