Pop Artists doing more Freestyle than freestyle artists

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K7, I did not mean to be offensive either... I have just been reading threads from this link and others on this site , example the TKA over thread. In just reading your posts and letters on these threads it seems that the TKA break-up (in my opinion only) should of been a bit more open to the fans. I know that's your own personal lives, but there is an obligation to the fans, since you are a public figure by choice, to have an explanation. To the best of what I can gather (but I am sure there is more) one of the reasons was that TKA/TKG could not get their 2nd cd signed by a label, or come to an agreement with. K7 I guess what I got upset with was just some of your responses. It seemed that you didn't care or respect your fans. We can buy the albums, go to the concerts, and follow the group online, but when it comes to the fans wanting to know what is going on or have any constructive input on the released material, it seemed that you didn't have much compassion to them. I am a huge TKA/K7 fan. I have all the 12" orginals (2 copies of each), I also have all the cds and maxi singles that were released. I even have imports. I have seen your shows since the 80's. I have even spoken to you last here in Tampa when you Stavie B, Coro, and GL performed. I even asked you when your double cd was going to be released and you said October. I guess my point is, you do spend time with your fans. After the concert was over, you all came down to the dance floor area and hung out with the fans. I do praise you for that. I just know and feel that TKA was so great and it does sadden me to see that era come to an end. In my opinion, the 3 best male voices in freestyle is Stevie B, K7, and George Lamond. K7 you do have one of the greatest voices in this genre and I was so excited to see George join TKA. I really thought freestyle would finally release a top notch quality product that could possible get air play and maybe cause a buzz around freestyle and who knows what could happen. I am looking forward to the new K7 release, one to hear the new material, but even more so to hopefully hear and freestyle that might be included on the cd.

Stevie B "postman song, because I love you" was a pop song... But my point to this is that the fans that liked it for it being pop, where are they now? The fans that have remained loyal to Stevie B are the freestyle ones. I guess I have to accept that the music I grew up with and loved is dead. Heck if TKA with George Lamond can't release a cd, (2 of the biggest names in freestyle) what hope is there for freestyle. The new school artists till this point have not really had the great production and quality behind their work such as a TKA or Stevie B have. Also those voices can not be matched. I hope NU Image who so far sounds as one of the best new groups out there, does something, but they don't even have any distribution of their product to mainstream stores. How successful can a project like that be?
 
NAAW STAV!! Freestyle is not dead bro. I know it seems like that but as long as new projects are in the making, theres always a small chance of a major buzz. How ever the freestyle You and I know is fading away, but like I said ......Generation 2 and 3 will be makin noise soon, and I can promise future freestyle Very SOON.
 
K7: I know my music history and I am aware that Marc Anthony and Barrio Boys recorded freestyle at first. Marc Anthony did songs with Chrissey I-eece "You & Me", "You should know by now". However, he certainly was not as synonimous with the name freestyle is TKA was or And More was or Cynthia was. Also, every point you have made, I have countered and you have not responded to some of my counter points. However, I do appreciate you taking the time to talk with us about this and it does make me feel better that you care enough about freestyle that the opinions of the hardcore fans does matter to you. I could be wrong but my instincts deep inside tell me that the Forever album was not the album you wanted and neither was the Louder than Love album. I think if you had been allowed to just be you and do what comes from the heart there would have been more freestyle on both of those albums.
Keep in mind that between albums, most of your revenue comes in from doing shows and at y'all shows you guys perform mostly freestyle songs and many of the events are aimed at a freestyle audience meaning that freestyle fans are responsible for a lot of the money you make from this to this day. Shouldn't these same fans be rewarded by at least getting the kind of music they want and deep inside you want also. I know you know what I'm talking about. The reason why my whole viewpoint on this is based on a street/hip hop mentality is because that is who I am and I know that that is also who you are. You know the line of thinking I'm coming from and that's what makes this so frustrating because I know you know that and thus you should know better that pop is not the answer to bringing something back up on the streets.
 
FreestyleHead said:
My whole point here is that hip hop made it as big as it did for as long as it did because it's REAL AND THE ARTISTS WILL BE CHECKED BY THE STREETS. Look at how pathetic freestyle really is: We are sitting here on a freestyle website sweating artists who are no longer a part of the cause. No one is saying that they shouldn't be allowed to make other types of music, what we're saying is that this is not the proper venue for a major part of their internet hype. These songs are not a hybrid of freestyle, not a different type of freestyle, they are not freestyle in any way. Yet we hang on their every move cuz they got it like that.
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Yo...

There is truth in your argument but I'ma disagree on something.

HIP HOP made it because the definition of Hip Hop is more about a lifestyle and a vibe than it is about a specific musical "pattern".

MUSICALLY, Hip Hop is allowed to go places where freestyle can't. What I mean by that is that a Hip Hop artist can SAMPLE, CUT, incorporate CLASSICAL, ROCK, COUNTRY, SOUL, WHATEVER THEY WANT into the track and people welcome the musical diversity.

Here in freestyleland we have stupid arguments about whether a song or an artist are freestyle because of ????

If I told you that I hear freestyle in Jordan Knights or Madonna's track I get lynched and called a moron 'cuz "There's NO WAY that Madonna has done a freestyle song".

Why? Because she's too refined? too pop?

Hip Hop embraces DIFFERENCE and variety in music.

Freestylers don't allow for much variety because if it's TOO DIFFERENT
it's NOT FREESTYLE in the eyes of some.

Peace!
 
YOUNG MEGATRON said:
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee , I have a hard time removing freestyle from muy vocabulary. Freestyle is the word that seperates our music from the other dance genres.
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Me Too!

I was being sarcastic. But I gotta say, regardless of what we call it the music would still resonate the same in my heart.
 
OOhhhh lol , My Bad -lol 🙂 Yeah, I hear ya bro. But I honestly do see something great happming to freestyle within the next year and a half. Through about 2006 , then freestyle will crawl under a rock again!! LOL 😛
 
freestyle head make all your points once more so that ANSWER YOU AGAIN

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at shows whether tka or k7 i perform what i want i like to be free to sing don't be afraid one night and body rock the other or even better than the rest on any given night .some times i do sometimes i stay with the program
about my albums if it was tka it was what we all wanted .
if it was k7 it was what i wanted and if i could go back to record any or every one of those albums i would have done them exactly the same no changes no extra no difference at all [ not even forever].
my street mentality say i got to be happy before i ever attempt to make my fans happy so i would do what makes me happy and if you guys don't like it i would deal with that it happens to every artist ups and downs ins and outs .so you know when i record you guys are part of my thought process but i gotta be me my finished product is what i want and that mentality is very street so respect that.
if you don't like the route i'm going in i'm so sorry but things change in life maybe you will come around one day . i never liked tupac music when he was alive even though we had friends in common who thought we would hit it off as friends but once he past i went back and listen to him and i began to appreciate his artistry [he did not become my favorite but i value his musical contribution ]
i never said pop would be freestyle's come back i said that if freestyle was free it would be able to be more like hip hop like naturalstye was mentioning .
I’ve been saying the same thing since i started at this site but a lot of you guys weren't listening.
freestyle needs to be more street like reggaeton is like hip hop is the generation that should be embracing the new freestyle artist is embracing the new reggaeton artist and the new hip hop artist while freestyle stays dormant with no changes repeating its self . we are in a time warp were are giving a generation who for the past ten years was raised on biggie tupac jay z snoop Dogg Eminem freestyle edits they find that confusing like when we go into a club and hear techno it all sounds like noise to us they feel the same way ,and though there are exceptions to that rule they are the minority we are not a movement unless we control the clubs again bump out of the speaker of every car during summer like Reggaeton & hip hop is about to do this whole summer long . its a shame that everyone knows who Tego Calderon Don Omar orchingy is but no one other than us here know who the new freestyle artist is .
frustrating is the fact that freestyle was street and became pop after starting underground while other musical art forms keep rising like the pheonix from their own ashes we wollow in what we were as oppose to wiping the dirt off our shoulders and moving .
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DJ STAV
tka's break up is a personal issue that may one day see the light of day and also may not.what we owe are fan is respect and love for what they did to make us tka and i thank each and everyone of you .
My obligation is not to tarnish from this point the hard work it took me ,Tony ,Angel ,Aby ,India Spider George & Joey Gardner to make t k a / k7 popular .come to the shows and you will see that wait a little while and you will hear some music from us as separate entities .
I can’t comment on the Nu image project Tony g would be better suited to answer that since Tony wrote for us I’m interested in the route they maybe going in. there are a lot of new artist out there and even some of the originals are coming out again the issue should be how can we as a community help this happen for them again.
 
K7 I do respect your comments. I can't wait to hear what music you and the other artist are hopefully releasing. Thanks...
 
by the end of summer for you freestlyers i wiil be doing "the kayel album"
all freestyle songs which will only be free to cf members at this time ...
more later .
and then a k7 across the board album [meaning what ever style of music i want to do .
but there will be enough freestyle on the kayel album to make you happy leaks will be out soon..
its called kayel cause thats who you guys remember singing tears may fall and give your love to me so there you go .
and no i'm not changing my name those are my sons middle names not mine anymore.
 
Naturalstyle said:
MUSICALLY, Hip Hop is allowed to go places where freestyle can't. What I mean by that is that a Hip Hop artist can SAMPLE, CUT, incorporate CLASSICAL, ROCK, COUNTRY, SOUL, WHATEVER THEY WANT into the track and people welcome the musical diversity.

Here in freestyleland we have stupid arguments about whether a song or an artist are freestyle because of ????

Hip Hop embraces DIFFERENCE and variety in music.

Freestylers don't allow for much variety because if it's TOO DIFFERENT
it's NOT FREESTYLE in the eyes of some.
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The difference is Hip-Hop is a genre of music while Freestyle is a sub-genre of Dance.

The differences between house, trance, euro, techno, jungle, drum & bass, etc (all sub-genres of dance) are very subtle, and you can only change a song so much before it is no longer part of that sub-genre. You can only change a euro song so much before it is no longer euro and becomes trance, for example. BUT IT'S ALL DANCE!

The same is true for freestyle; you can only change it so much before it's no longer freestyle. But it's still Dance.

Hip-Hop is different. There are many sub-genres of hip-hop, but hip-hop itself is a genre, like Dance.

You can't compare the flexibility of Freestyle to Hip-Hop. It is not a fair comparison.
 
dance music is an anomoly .
face the fact that its a title we give it to mark our territory.
we can dance to anything so is all of those others styles dance as well ?
yes they are .
today we could start a new form of music using pots and pans and call it brillo ..lol
sorry i dont mean to be a smart ass.
but look at outkast as an example hey ya by most standards is not a rap record yet it won them grammys because they called it hip hop and for them it is a hip hop record.
the same goes for freestyle we could do anything and call it the new wave of freestyle as long as we support it so that it would work
 
it also not a comparison but a statement that we are the ones holding freestyle back from being able to be flexible and as free as hip hop
 
K7, This Is Off Topic, But Is The Movie "freestyle Rush" For Real? If So, When Will It Be Released, Or Is It Going To Dvd W/o A Release? Thanks...
 
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