sietzsounds
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Jack, you have a great site here!!!!! I wish I discovered CF years ago at it's inception to gauge how much it's grown & improved.
I've posted on many a forum or newsgroup in the past where I've seen arguments & flame wars. That seems to be kept at a minimum here. Debated on CF seem constructive overall.
Also.. where else can you ask a freestyle question (or any music genre for that matter) and get an answer within minutes? You can do it all here.... find out about freestyle artists, discover new school freestyle (which is what I need), discuss old school freestyle, and just plain ol escape, hang out & have fun.
There's a unity here that I don't see elsewhere, it's the CF family.
Now the question here is what can we all do to help freestyle? I've read all the recent threads on this topic & my feeling is..... things seem scattered & unfocused. If someone asks you "What is new school freestyle" how do you answer? What's it's sound? What makes it special? What differenciates it from other dance genres? What can we all do as artists, producers, industry members, fans to make freestyle big again? There needs to be a focus.
For instance, the whole mp3 / paying for CD's / free MP3 download vault thing...
personally, I didn't hear anything that blew me away, I heard nice songs, good songs, but nothing that I'd go out & purchase or make me want to hear more of that artist.
Also, I would've liked some feedback on my 2 songs, I got much appreciated comments & criticisms from 1 person, that's it. These were the first 2 frestyle songs I ever produced (I'm more of a house music guy when it comes to producing tracks). I would've liked to hear all comments, good or bad, I'm a grown up, I wouldn't take it personally, so my next songs are that much better. You know who you are & thanks for the critiques!!!
And - the KTU thing - believe me, I'm very dissapointed as you guys are about KTU, but I feel like you're all bashing them & talking trash instead of trying to get them to improve their playlists - they're the beat of NY, I should be able to listen all day & all night, but I can't they play such crap - I've listened to dance music all my life - from the original KTU in the late 70's early 80's, I listened to 99XLO when it changed to Kiss FM, I listened to hot 103 QHT, I recall the day they played their last song, and we all tuned to 97 and dance continued there for a bit, I remember hot 97 changed to hip hop. Hip hop is big for a reason folks, there's a focus.
I makes me nauseus when I hear Vic Latino play Silent Morning, then he raves that he loves freestyle while he plays house. And Judy Torres.... Ok, 2 hours of old school freestyle... fine.... then how bout make a third hour dedicated to new school freestyle. That's constuctive venting as far as I'm concerned.
We need to work with KTU and not alienate them, just my opinion.
Now we can go to all the freestyle concerts and purchase every freestyle artists material (and thats great and we should continue to do so) but that's not all. We have to get back to basics, define freestyles sound, continue to make great songs, get them to every DJ, club, radio station, major label, indie label. Unfortunately in the music biz, alot is luck as well, A&R will listen to about 1 out of every 1000 demos, 999 go straight into the trash. We need to improve our chances.
And me personally, I'm sitting here in NYC with acces to a handful of studios that I can jam at tomorrow.... I know I'm relatively new & no one has met me, but call on me, give me lyrics, songs,let's get to work, call on me to produce a track, let me do a remix, whatever, I'm here & that's another way I can contribute.
To sum it up... focus on what freestyle is & where we want it to head, keep writing & producing freestyle songs, get them heard everywhere, get inside the industry, (James at KTU is a good start), keep going to concerts & buying freestyle whenever possible, and yes, burn MP3's, it's free (or cheap) p&d!!!
I feel in my gut, freestyle having a resurgence in the next few years & I see Clubfreestyle & it's family being right in the middle of it!!!!!!!!!! Peace!!!!!!
Sietz
I've posted on many a forum or newsgroup in the past where I've seen arguments & flame wars. That seems to be kept at a minimum here. Debated on CF seem constructive overall.
Also.. where else can you ask a freestyle question (or any music genre for that matter) and get an answer within minutes? You can do it all here.... find out about freestyle artists, discover new school freestyle (which is what I need), discuss old school freestyle, and just plain ol escape, hang out & have fun.
There's a unity here that I don't see elsewhere, it's the CF family.
Now the question here is what can we all do to help freestyle? I've read all the recent threads on this topic & my feeling is..... things seem scattered & unfocused. If someone asks you "What is new school freestyle" how do you answer? What's it's sound? What makes it special? What differenciates it from other dance genres? What can we all do as artists, producers, industry members, fans to make freestyle big again? There needs to be a focus.
For instance, the whole mp3 / paying for CD's / free MP3 download vault thing...
personally, I didn't hear anything that blew me away, I heard nice songs, good songs, but nothing that I'd go out & purchase or make me want to hear more of that artist.
Also, I would've liked some feedback on my 2 songs, I got much appreciated comments & criticisms from 1 person, that's it. These were the first 2 frestyle songs I ever produced (I'm more of a house music guy when it comes to producing tracks). I would've liked to hear all comments, good or bad, I'm a grown up, I wouldn't take it personally, so my next songs are that much better. You know who you are & thanks for the critiques!!!
And - the KTU thing - believe me, I'm very dissapointed as you guys are about KTU, but I feel like you're all bashing them & talking trash instead of trying to get them to improve their playlists - they're the beat of NY, I should be able to listen all day & all night, but I can't they play such crap - I've listened to dance music all my life - from the original KTU in the late 70's early 80's, I listened to 99XLO when it changed to Kiss FM, I listened to hot 103 QHT, I recall the day they played their last song, and we all tuned to 97 and dance continued there for a bit, I remember hot 97 changed to hip hop. Hip hop is big for a reason folks, there's a focus.
I makes me nauseus when I hear Vic Latino play Silent Morning, then he raves that he loves freestyle while he plays house. And Judy Torres.... Ok, 2 hours of old school freestyle... fine.... then how bout make a third hour dedicated to new school freestyle. That's constuctive venting as far as I'm concerned.
We need to work with KTU and not alienate them, just my opinion.
Now we can go to all the freestyle concerts and purchase every freestyle artists material (and thats great and we should continue to do so) but that's not all. We have to get back to basics, define freestyles sound, continue to make great songs, get them to every DJ, club, radio station, major label, indie label. Unfortunately in the music biz, alot is luck as well, A&R will listen to about 1 out of every 1000 demos, 999 go straight into the trash. We need to improve our chances.
And me personally, I'm sitting here in NYC with acces to a handful of studios that I can jam at tomorrow.... I know I'm relatively new & no one has met me, but call on me, give me lyrics, songs,let's get to work, call on me to produce a track, let me do a remix, whatever, I'm here & that's another way I can contribute.
To sum it up... focus on what freestyle is & where we want it to head, keep writing & producing freestyle songs, get them heard everywhere, get inside the industry, (James at KTU is a good start), keep going to concerts & buying freestyle whenever possible, and yes, burn MP3's, it's free (or cheap) p&d!!!
I feel in my gut, freestyle having a resurgence in the next few years & I see Clubfreestyle & it's family being right in the middle of it!!!!!!!!!! Peace!!!!!!
Sietz
