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On August 6 th, 2001, George W. Bush went fishing.

* “President Bush swung into vacation mode Monday, fishing for bass in his pond, strolling the canyons on his 1,600-acre ranch, taking an early-morning run. Associated Press, “President Bush Vacationing in Texas,” August 6, 2001.
 
“Was it the guy my daddy’s friends delivered a lot of weapons to?” (george bush)

* In 1995, a member of Reagan's National Security Council and co-author of his National Security Directives, Howard Teicher, signed a sworn affidavit stating: “From early 1982 to 1987, I served as a Staff Member to the United States National Security Council.… In June, 1982, President Reagan decided that the United States could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran. President Reagan decided that the United States would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran. Pursuant to the secret NSDD, the United States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military weaponry required. This message was delivered by Vice President Bush who communicated it to Egyptian President Mubarak, who in turn passed the message to Saddam Hussein. Under CIA Director Casey and Deputy Director Gates, the CIA made sure that non-U.S. manufacturers manufactured and sold to Iraq the weapons needed by Iraq. In certain instances where a key component in a weapon was not readily available, the highest levels of the United States government decided to make the component available, directly or indirectly, to Iraq. I specifically recall that the provision of anti-armor penetrators to Iraq was a case in point. The United States made a policy decision to supply penetrators to Iraq." Affidavit of former Howard Teicher, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. CARLOS CARDOEN et al, January 31, 1995.

* “Questions have been raised about whether the United States not only ignored foreign arms shipments to Iraq, but actually encouraged or even arranged them. A former National Security Council official, Howard Teicher, said in a 1995 court affidavit that the CIA made sure Iraq received weapons from non-U.S. manufacturers.” Ken Guggenheim, “War Crimes Trial for Saddam Could Reveal Details of Past U.S. Help,” Associated Press, January 24, 2004.

* “There is ample documentation demonstrating that the Reagan and Bush administrations supplied critical military technologies that were put directly to use in the construction of the Iraqi war machine. There is also strong evidence indicating that the executive branch's failure to crack down on illegal weapons traffickers or keep track of third party transfers of U.S. weaponry allowed a substantial flow of U.S.-origin military equipment and military components to make their way to Iraq.” William D. Hartung, Weapons at War; A World Policy Institute Issue Brief, May 1995. See also, Alan Friedman, Spider's Web: The Secret History of How the White House Illegally Armed Iraq, (Bantam Books, 1993); Kenneth R. Timmerman, The Death Lobby: How the West Armed Iraq, (Houghton, Mifflin, 1991).

* “Rep. Dante Fascell, D-Fla., chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said … that the United States could not ‘make a claim for purity’ on arms sales, since the U.S. government has sold weapons to Iran, Iraq ‘and everybody else in the world.’” Robert Shepard, “Congress Approves Aid for Former Soviet Republics,” United Press International, October 3, 1992.

* “A covert American program during the Reagan administration provided Iraq with critical battle planning assistance at a time when American intelligence agencies knew that Iraqi commanders would employ chemical weapons in waging the decisive battles of the Iran-Iraq war, according to senior military officers with direct knowledge of the program. Those officers, most of whom agreed to speak on the condition that they not be identified, spoke in response to a reporter's questions about the nature of gas warfare on both sides of the conflict between Iran and Iraq from 1981 to 1988. Iraq's use of gas in that conflict is repeatedly cited by President Bush and, this week, by his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, as justification for "regime change" in Iraq. The covert program was carried out at a time when President Reagan's top aides, including Secretary of State George P. Shultz, Defense Secretary Frank C. Carlucci and Gen. Colin L. Powell, then the national security adviser, were publicly condemning Iraq for its use of poison gas, especially after Iraq attacked Kurds in Halabja in March 1988.” Patrick E. Tyler, “Officers Say U.S. Aided Iraq in War Despite Use of Gas,” The New York Times, August 18, 2002.
 
“Was it that group of religious fundamentalists who visited my state when I was governor?” (george bush)

* “A senior delegation from the Taleban movement in Afghanistan is in the United States for talks with an international energy company that wants to construct a gas pipeline from Turkmenistan across Afghanistan to Pakistan. A spokesman for the company, Unocal, said the Taleban were expected to spend several days at the company's headquarters in Sugarland, Texas.” “Taleban in Texas for talks on Gas
Pipeline,” BBC News, December 4, 1997 (Sugarland is 22 miles outside Houston.)

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm you dont think this war could be about something else besides gettting terrorist naaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!
 
“Or was it the Saudis? Damn, it was them.” (George Bush)

* “The 27 classified pages of a congressional report about Sept. 11 depict a Saudi government that not only provided significant money and aid to the suicide hijackers but also allowed potentially hundreds of millions of dollars to flow to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups through suspect charities and other fronts, according to sources familiar with the document. One U.S. official who has read the classified section said it describes ‘very direct, very specific links’ between Saudi officials, two of the San Diego-based hijackers and other potential co-conspirators ‘that cannot be passed off as rogue, isolated or coincidental.’” Of all the hijackers, 15 of the 19 were Saudi. Josh Meyer, “Report Links Saudi Government to 9/11 Hijackers, Sources Say,” Los Angeles Times, August 2, 2003.

DOOOOOOOOHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! doofus!!
 
ok ? lets try this


after this i give up. this guy owns a building right behind me. and its got weeds everywhere. everywhere.


now every 4 months some one comes to cut the weeds. and he cuts them. he dosnt do a great job at cutting them . or maybe he does depending on whos looking.


if your not allowed to have weeds.

and the city came to blame some one for the weeds who would they blame.

the guy who cuts them.

Or the ****en guy whos fault the weeds grew since 1992 ??


which by the way is as long as this guy has had the building abandonded

1992.

so clinton and this guy who owns the building have one thing in common.

the year they both started abandonening the duties.

the only difference is.


that this guy can clean up his weeds.


we may never clean up clintons weeds.
 
“In the days following September 11th , all commercial and private airline traffic was grounded.”

* “On the morning of September 11th, there were 4,873 instrument flight rule (IFR) flights operating in U.S. airspace. As soon as Secretary Mineta was aware of the nature and scale of the terrorist attack on New York and Washington -- that we were faced with, not one, but four possible hijackings, and several other rumors of missing or unidentified aircraft -- the Secretary ordered the air traffic system shut down for all civil operations. Jane F. Garvey on Aviation Security Following the Terrorist Attack on September 11th, September 21, 2001; http://www.faa.gov/newsroom/testimony/
2001/testimony_010921.htm; see also, “Airports to Remain Closed, Mineta Says,” Department of Transportation Press Release, September 12,
2001

BUT WHAT DID DOOFUS DO??????????

*******“The White House approved planes to pick up the bin Ladens and numerous other Saudis.”***** REREAD THIS SENTENCE!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUQ???? yes president bush approves this!!!

* Fearing reprisals against Saudi nationals, the Saudi government asked for help in getting some of its citizens out of the country. National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Threats and Responses in 2001, Staff Statement No. 10, The Saudi Flights, p. 12; http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/
hearing10/staff_statement_10.pdf

* “Now, what I recall is that I asked for flight manifests of everyone on board and all of those names need to be directly and individually vetted by the FBI before they were allowed to leave the country. And I also wanted the FBI to sign off even on the concept of Saudis being allowed to leave the country. And as I recall, all of that was done. It is true that members of the Bin Laden family were among those who left. We knew that at the time. I can't say much more in open session, but it was a conscious decision with complete review at the highest levels of the State Department and the FBI and the White House.” Testimony of Richard Clarke, Former Counterterrorism Chief, National Security Council, before The Senate Judiciary Committee, September 3, 2003.

* “I was making or coordinating a lot of decisions on 9/11 and the days immediately after. And I would love to be able to tell you who did it, who brought this proposal to me, but I don't know. Since you pressed me, the two possibilities that are most likely are either the Department of State, or the White House Chief of Staff's Office. But I don't know.” Testimony of Richard A. Clarke before the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, March 24, 2004.

“At least six private jets and nearly two dozen commercial planes carried the Saudis and the bin Ladens out of the U.S. after September 13th. In all, 142 Saudis, including 24 members of the bin Laden family, were allowed to leave the country.”

NOTE: strong evidence has recently come to light that at least one private plane flew to pick up Saudi nationals while private flights were still grounded. Moreover, for nearly three years, the White House has denied that this flight existed. This was reported in the June 9, 2004 St. Petersburg Times article cited below.

* After the airspace reopened, six chartered flights with 142 people,mostly Saudi Arabian nationals, departed from the United States between September 14 and 24. One flight, the so-called Bin Ladin flight, departed the United States on September 20 with 26 passengers, most of them relatives of Usama Bin Ladin. National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Threats and Responses in 2001, Staff Statement No. 10, The Saudi Flights, p. 12; http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/
hearing10/staff_statement_10.pdf

* It should be noted that the US Customs and Border Protection document released by the Department of Homeland Security under the FOIA, Feb 24, 2004 lists 162 Saudi Nationals who flew out of the country between 9/11/2001 and 9/15/2001, departing from New York’s Kennedy airport, Washington’s Dulles, and Dallas Fort Worth.

* For an official list of Saudi Passport holders (names redacted) who flew out of the country between 9.11.2001 – 9.15.2001, see US Customs and Border Protection document released by the Department of Homeland Security under the FOIA, Feb 24, 2004; http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/
2004/homelandsecurity.pdf.
 
* TheSt. Petersburg Times reported on Jun 9, 2004:

o "Two days after the Sept. 11 attacks, with most of the nation's air traffic still grounded, a small jet landed at Tampa International Airport, picked up three young Saudi men and left. The men, one of them thought to be a member of the Saudi royal family, were accompanied by a former FBI agent and a former Tampa police officer on the flight to Lexington, Ky. The Saudis then took another flight out of the country.”

o Moreover: “For nearly three years, White House, aviation and law enforcement officials have insisted the flight never took place and have denied published reports and widespread Internet speculation about its purpose… The terrorism panel, better known as the 9/11 Commission, said in April that it knew of six chartered flights with 142 people aboard, mostly Saudis, that left the United States between Sept. 14 and 24, 2001. But it has said nothing about the Tampa flight… The 9/11 Commission, which has said the flights out of the United States were handled appropriately by the FBI, appears concerned with the handling of the Tampa flight.

o "Most of the aircraft allowed to fly in U.S. airspace on Sept. 13 were empty airliners being ferried from the airports where they made quick landings on Sept. 11. The reopening of the airspace included paid charter flights, but not private, nonrevenue flights.” Jean Heller, “TIA now verifies flight of Saudis; The government has long denied that two days after the 9/11 attacks, the three were allowed to fly.” St. Petersburg Times, June 9, 2004
 
speeking of weeds bush must have been high on alot of it around this time!!!!

any way back to the FBI (federal bureau of insanity)

The FBI conducted “a little interview, and glanced at passports"

Last year, the National Review reported that the FBI conducted brief, day-of-departure interviews with the Saudis -- in the words of an FBI spokesman, "at the airport, as they were about to leave." Experts interviewed by the National Review called the FBI's actions "highly unusual" given the fact that those departing were actually members of Osama bin Laden's family. "They [the FBI] could not have done a thorough and complete interview," said John L.Martin, the former head of internal security at the Justice Department. "The Great Escape : How did assorted bin Ladens get out of America after September 11?" National Review, September 29, 2003.

* “Thirty of the 142 people on these flights were interviewed by the FBI, including 22 of the 26 people (23 passengers and 3 private security guards) on the Bin Ladin flight. Many were asked detailed questions. None of the passengers stated that they had any recent contact with Usama Bin Ladin or knew anything about terrorist activity." National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Threats and Responses in 2001, Staff Statement No. 10, The Saudi Flights, p. 12; http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/
hearing10/staff_statement_10.pdf

* “I talked to several people who were with the FBI during the actual repatriation. And they told me there was a lot of back-and-forth between the FBI and the Saudi Embassy. And the Saudi Embassy tried to get people to leave without even identifying them. The FBI succeeded in identifying people and going through their passports. But, in many cases, you had the FBI meeting people for the first time on the tarmac or on the planes themselves as they were departing. That was not time for a serious interview or a serious interrogation.” Interview with Craig Unger, CNN, September 4, 2003.
 
almost everything you guys have posted here is. null cuase anyone who well re searched not just likes or dislikes people based on suggestive opinions. anyone who is well re seacrhed.

knows that bush is the first person in 50 years to adress the problem of terrorists. head on. and in 4 years has done the impossible. and had it not been for him.


my freinds who knows what would of happened.


also you guys are typical of generation x when it comes to debates and arguements impulsive looking to assign blame looking to follow trails. all that stuff. and terribly un researched. and lacking abysmally in world history.


there is only one trail to follow. that of a person who shirked his responsbilities for 8 years.

which is the only reason. not cuase of bush. the threat was already to late by then. even if bush had done anything in 2000. he didnt have the political strength. cuase most of anything would had been shot down cuase there was no sept 11 th. and all the same people actually You people would be saying. in 2000

why are you doing this why are you doing tha?. why you killing these people why are harrasing the suadis? why why why.

you guys Had there been no sept 11 th would had been the first people saying why are you doing anything about terrorism thats not a problem? and it would of ended there. be sure of it llloll.

but its becuase sept 11 th happened. that people like you guys. who belive me deep down hate this war. and wish you stick him or trip him on something.

its you people only cuase of sept 11 th. you guys have to zip it up?. and let bush do whatever he needs to do. Not cuase of terrorism.

you guys could care less about that if you did you would nt argue any of this.

the only reason you guys let him dowhatever he needs to do. is cuase you shitted in your pants the day those things went down.

and becuase of it. you guys allow him to do whatever he needs to do. like i said you guys would had been the first The First people. to have not let him do any of these things.

had there beeen no sept 11 th.

So Who The Hell are you guys kidding. half you

people didnt even know where suadi arabia was before sept 11 th. who the crap are you guys kidding lllloll. you guys didnt know where pakistan was lllloll.

and im sure you didnt know that if ben laden had made it to pakistan. there was 44 ICBM's waiting for him there.

he was stopped by george bush.

cuase he never made it from torra bora. hes stuck in the hills of pakistan.

you guys need to do alot more reading. and have to get yourseleves a deeper knowledge of world history.

if your gonna make it throught he next 50 years?
 
rbonuc29 said:
ok ? lets try this


after this i give up. this guy owns a building right behind me. and its got weeds everywhere. everywhere.


now every 4 months some one comes to cut the weeds. and he cuts them. he dosnt do a great job at cutting them . or maybe he does depending on whos looking.


if your not allowed to have weeds.

and the city came to blame some one for the weeds who would they blame.

the guy who cuts them.

Or the ****en guy whos fault the weeds grew since 1992 ??


which by the way is as long as this guy has had the building abandonded

1992.

so clinton and this guy who owns the building have one thing in common.

the year they both started abandonening the duties.

the only difference is.


that this guy can clean up his weeds.


we may never clean up clintons weeds.


Again with irrelevant remarks...don't worry about your boy bush cleaning up BC's weeds...he's doing a bang up job putting in a newer and bigger batch.
 
and speaking of the "comander if grief" our militrary leaders own honorable service in arms fighing for freedom on the front line????

Left-leaning filmmaker Michael Moore got the discussion started in January, when he endorsed Clark for president and called the president a ‘deserter.’ The White House responded by releasing the president's service records, including an honorable discharge.

response from the white house two documents!!!!


There is one glaring difference between the records released in 2000 and those he released in 2004. A name had been blacked out. In 1972, two airmen were suspended for failing to take their medical examination. One was George W. Bush and the other wasJames R. Bath.
 
who the fuq is james bath TAE???

James R. Bath was the Texas money manager for the Bin Laden family.

* See Notarized Trust Agreement, Harris County, Texas, signed by Salem M. Binladen, July 8, 1976 (original document), Attachment C (“I, Salem M. Binladen, do hereby vest unto James Reynolds Bath, 2330 Bellefontaine, Houston, Texas, full and absolute authority to act on my behalf in all matters relating to the business and operation of Binladen-Houston offices in Houston, Texas.” Notarized Trust Agreement, Harris County, Texas, July 8, 1976.

* “According to a 1976 trust agreement, drawn shortly after [George H. W.] Bush was appointed director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Saudi Sheik Salem M. Binladen appointed Bath as his business representative in Houston. Binladen, along with his brothers, owns Binladen Brothers Construction, one of the largest construction companies in the Middle East.” Jerry Urban, “Feds Investigate Entrepreneur Allegedly Tied to Saudis,” Houston Chronicle, June 4, 1992.
 
George W. Bush and James R. Bath had become good friends.

* “Bath, 55, acknowledges a friendship with George W. Bush that stems from their service together in the Texas Air National Guard.”
“In a copy of the record released by the National Guard in 2000, the man in question, James R. Bath, was listed as being suspended from flying for the National Guard in 1972 for failing to take a medical exam next to a similar listing for Mr. Bush. It has been widely reported that the two were friends and that Mr. Bath invested in Mr. Bush's first major business venture, Arbusto Energy, in the late 1970's after Mr. Bath began working for Salem bin Laden.” Jim Rutenberg, “A Film to Polarize Along Party Lines,” New York Times, May 17, 2004.


*just the good ole boys never meanin no harm*****
 
look why dont you guys go back to playing with cell phones and talking about who sleeping with who and whats was on desperate housewives lllol.


suadi arabia pakistan lebenon iraq greece turkey etc,. you guys talk about these places
like your talking about the paladium or red zone lllloll.

yo half you guys didnt even know where these places were on the map. let alone what makes them tick before sept 11 th .

now your gonna cram 50 years of history in some cases 8000 years of tribal history. in

3 years yeah ok? llloll.

and think the web is gonna help figure eveything out for you. by looking for talking points. in the web.


you guys are involved in something thats requires a man like gorge bush to be in the white house. a guy who has stopped or least has contained the biggest threat in modern times.

and had it been payed attention to just tiny bit in the 90's we would nt be in this soup.

think people are best playing with cell phones.

and leave the fighting up to real men and women. and real commanders and chiefs.
 
AND THEN??????????????????????????


“After they were discharged, when Bush’s dad was head of the CIA, Bath opened up his own aviation business, after selling a plane to a man by the name of Salem bin Laden, heir to the second largest fortune in Saudi Arabia, the Saudi bin Laden Group.”

* “Bath opened his own aircraft brokerage firm in 1976.” Jonathan Beaty, “A Mysterious Mover of Money and Planes,” Time Magazine, October 28, 1991. (Bush was CIA director, 1976-1977.)

* “Sometime around 1974… Bath was trying to sell a F-27 turboprop, a sluggish medium-range plane that was not exactly a hot ticket in those days, when he received a phone call that changed his life. The voice no the other end belonged to Salem bin Laden… Bath not only had a buyer for a plane no one else seemed to want, he had also stumbled upon a source of wealth and power that was certain to pique the interest of even the brashest Texas oil baron.” Craig Unger, House of Bush, House of Saud, pp,19-20 (Scribner: New York, 2004).
 
And this is where I Intro.

Please dont bring Mike Moore into this. First off he's a Libral by the worst case scenerio. And the worst kind. A Left Winger.
None of his so called movies about the Military bore any fact nor truth. ALL SPECULATIONS.

FACT: BUSH DID NOT CUT FUNDING TO FBI, CIA. That was MR Cigar himself. Clinton.
FACT: Bush did not weaken the military with huge cut backs and funding. Mr Cigar did that.
FACT: EVERY MILITARY ASSET we had that was either BOMB, i.e. World Trade Centers "92", USS Cole, Our Embassy, all were bombed during the Clinton Administration. We stood IDLE!!! IDLE!!! We practically said, ok...we aren't going to chase you but DONT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN!!

Finally we get someone in the White house who put his foot down. And you guys complain about this? What will it take for you guys to open up your eyes to the travisty going on in the world?

Do you have to physically go see the innocent thousandths of Kurds who were murdered just because they voiced there opions? The very same rights you are right now flexing?

Or will it take another bomb? Like what happend in England?

Please......enlighten me?
 
tune in tomorrow same bat time same well you know the rest i got the plot thickening
 
guys i bet 100 dollars that if i had asked anyone in this web site. where pakistan was.

what a sunni was? where basra? is what regions have oil which dont etc,.

in 2000. and if i asked half the people in the clinton CIA.

you know what the answer would have been. uhhhhhhhhhhhh?

i dont know? llloll.

that was the answer in 1997. here i dont know what you guys would tell me lloll ??
 
dood

we had 2 two freeking cia operatives in all of iran during clinton hollly shitttttt?? llllolll.

come on man who are you guys kidding. the 90's was the distratced decade led by the distracted president.

in fact for the purpose of this im gonna call him mr distracted llloll.

mr distracted had 2 freeking agents in all of iran hollllllyy shit llllolll.
 
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