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my fave Paula song would hafta be "The Way That You Love Me" and I'd say she's not a freestyle artist, but had a few jamz that were kinda freestyle sounding..... 🙂
chicagoboy said:I honestly can't believe what I'm reading. I don't even know where to begin. CutWiz, because I'm 26 and you are a whole 5 years older than me, doesn't mean I lived less of the Freestyle phenomenon. I was there for TKA and Trilogy, don't underestimate me. You thought Freestyle was dying in the late 80s.....need I go on?
As far as the cleaned up sound that you say has been transformed from Freestyle to artists like Britney and NSync makes no sense to me. What if I said to you, well "Shake Your Love" by Debbie Gibson is Freestyle. It's danceable and has the same feel as something by Lil' Suzy. Does that necessarily make Gibson Freestyle? No. Simply because a Freestyle music producer creates music for an artist like NSync doesn't make the group part of the genre. Tim McGraw and Nelly, both from different forms of music collaborated to make a song. Since McGraw worked with Nelly, does that make him HipHop/Rap?
If you asked any of the groups you named if they could name a true Freestyle song, do honestly think "Kentwood, Louisana Britney" would know what you were talking about?
If people keep tossing the name of "Freestyle" to every artist, then we shouldn't question Freestyle's dramatic demise.
I guess I got "schooled" in the last post. So if what you are saying is correct, then it's safe to assume New Kids On The Block were Freestyle because they opened up for Lisa Lisa back in '87? These ridiculous relations between artists you claim to be founded are beyond me. It looks like we're just not going seeing eye to eye.cutwizardjay said:ChicagoBoy, where do I start. How about here, the last time I checked 35 take away 26 is 9 NOT 5. Second of all i've been been to Hearthrobs in NYC and saw Debbie Gibson open for TKA & others (for those in Chicago that know no better Hearthrob was THE freestyle club in NYC for quite some time). That being said I also saw The Backstreet Boys open at 1018 for George Lamond & others. This and other reasons like often hearing Debbie Gibson's vocals over Freestyle beats in Freestyle clubs. Again you were TOO young to know these things. You'll never know total silence in a club & all of a sudden hearing the opening keys to "Hungry for Your Love" being played & the crowd losing it's mind. You don't know the clapping patterns we used in clubs when the break of a song arrived.
I'd also like to add Freestyle & house arrived closley together, and Chicago was were house was born & NYC was where Freestyle was born. That being said you were probably hearing "Jack Your Body" & Marshall Jefferson Alot more than "Can You Feel The Beat & The Cover Girls. It's always good to "act like you know" but don't get schooled in the process.
chicagoboy said:I guess I got "schooled" in the last post. So if what you are saying is correct, then it's safe to assume New Kids On The Block were Freestyle because they opened up for Lisa Lisa back in '87? These ridiculous relations between artists you claim to be founded are beyond me. It looks like we're just not going seeing eye to eye.
As far as me being "TOO young to know these things", let me reference one of your first posts. You said something along the lines of, Freestyle dying around the time of Paula Abdul's peak. You being the age that you are and you being the avid Freestyle fan that you are, should have had the common sense to know that this is false. Maybe this is because you were too busy living the Freestyle experience that I wasn't a part of because I was in diapers and in the wrong time zone.
For someone your age, I would expect a more mature post. You assuming because I'm from Chicago, I didn't listen to the Cover Girls or Lisa Lisa is plain....stupid. I'll let you think about that one because I won't even dignify that with a response.
It was a good little debate though! No hard feelings! :nahcutwizardjay said:I'LL MAKE MY CLOSING STATEMENT. "STRAIGHT UP" WAS RELEASED IN 1989 (YES I KNOW THE ALBUM CAME OUT IN 1988, BUT STRAIGHT UP WAS RELEASED IN 1989 ACCORDING TO HER WEBSITE). FRESSTYLE STARTED TO DIE IN 1990, SO WAS THIS A REACH? I THINK NOT.
AGAIN I NEVER SAID THESE ARTISTS WERE FREESTYLE, I SAID THIS IS WHAT FREESTYLE HAS EVOLVED TO. MY PROOF TO THAT FACT WAS, THE CORROLATION OF THESE ARTISTS PREFORMING WITH FREESTYLE ARTISTS, AND THE SONGS BEING PLAYED IN FREESTYLE CLUBS. I WILL REPEAT THAT I DISLIKE THE FACT THAT "OUR" STYLE HAS BEEN BORROWED AND MADE MORE SUCCESSFUL.
I NEVER SAID YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO FREESTYLE IN CHICAGO. WHAT I WAS TRYING TO POINT OUT WAS, THAT SINCE CHICAGO IS THE HOME OF HOUSE MUSIC. IT WAS PROBABLY ALOT EASIER TO COME ACROSS THAN FREESTYLE WAS, ESPECIALLY AT ITS HEIGHT.
IN CLOSING, I THINK MY POINT WAS MADE, AND IF IT OFFENDED YOU, OH WELL. IT'S MY OPINION, AND A VERY EDUCATED ONE AT THAT. YOU HAVE MANY PEOPLE HERE SAYING PAULA ABDUL WAS FREESTYLE. I HAVE NEVER STATED THAT (I DISSAGREE WITH THAT OPINION). MY ORIGIONAL POST WAS SHE A BRIDGE FROM FREESTYLE TO THIS NEW FORM OF MUSIC PERFORMED BY THE LIKES OF BRITNEY, ETC.
I WILL NOW BOW OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION, SO AS NOT TO SEEM LIKE I'M BEATING A DEAD HORSE. THIS WAS FUN THOUGH. THANKS CHICAGOBOY