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Love songs.... over hip hop beats.......

That's what this music is supposed to be all about.

LOVE SONGS.... So why all the hatred? Why all the fighting? Why all the digital thuggery over nothing more than LOVE SONGS? It makes very little sense. Some people do not like or feel love songs.

If you're here on clubfreestyle.com you do like or feel LOVE SONGS because that's what freestyle is...
LOVE SONGS.

One thing that I have observed is that too much energy is being wasted on practically nothing. I've had my share of emotional distress trying to get you all to understand the angles we were coming from with this effort. Somewhere down the line that message got lost in the shuffle.

We have people coming on-line to defend the name TKA, but then they somehow lose focus and it becomes personal. That ruins all the hard work that TKA put forth in changing many minds and opening a few others because of sensationalism. Overblown hype does nothing for any of us here. Let the arguement rest. If you have the album, you know what it is. Why should you have to state your opinion over and over again through drama that someone who probably got theirs for free is starting...albeit with good intentions, but negative results.

There are so many other things we need to address here at this site. There are many other things we need to start doing TOGETHER in order to change the plight that has fallen on a once great musical force. Cyber thuggin it out here is not moving forward...This is like a bad episode of Groundhog Day... I think we need to re-evaluate what we are doing witrh our time, and get this right. Because if we don't make moves for the better, what really is the point of a forum?
Simply gossip? I don't think so.

As the largest remaining united population of freestlye fans in one place, you have the power to re shape this and take this any where you want. Why tolerate the BS, and risk the future of something you love? You can change the game right now, so why not make something happen? Watching you fight over opinions is like watching a hampster on his wheel, going no where fast.

Remember...LOVE SONGS...let's not lose focus.
 
You are right!

It all makes sense..Lets not lose focus! That is exactly what freestyle is, that is exactly what TKAs songs are about..LOVE..This arguing isnt getting us anywhere, it just keeps going back to the way it started..NOWHERE...Why bother anymore? People had once defended TKA many times, but as it progressed, it did get personal. And why go there??? I know for myself, that I am one of those people who has defended TKA, and still does till this day. But do people hear me? Do people care? Maybe only those who understand and those who agree..But the others just want to keep on going Tybless...People are becoming new members, just to trash them! WHY??? Why cant we just let this all behind us, and FEEL THE MUSIC...This just doesnt go for TKA, is goes for whatever hatred is out there..lets all get a long...
 
Groundhog Day was a funny a** movie!!! Scary too if you put yourself in Bill Murray's place!! 😱 Waking up to this same song EVERY freakin' morning:

"So put your little hand in mine......." LOL 😀
 
😀 LMAO-------->ANTHONY...I SAW THAT MOVIE TOO AND I ASKED MYSELF WHEN WILL IT EVER END?
 
YO TY, JAYHOVA HAS LEFT THE ROOM

By the time you read this I'll be in my studio trying make my next hit. and all of this will be in the past.

I will miss every one in cf one love.

mjswan aka jayhova
 
Mjswan aka jhova..

I didn't know you were an artist...
Best of luck with all you do. Thank you for your support.

P.S.
What was said above was meant for everyone here at CF.
Not one or two individuals. I would never ask someone to stop posting, but I would like to see some uplifting of somesort where we could somehow have summits and maybe a get together once a month where we can again purify what was.

Sure, I know K says what is, is, but the only way to make it better is to change what it IS, to what is should be.
That's my point.
People leaving the site is what we are trying to avoid. This is like a family of 3,000 plus computer savvy individuals who as a collective can make or break anyone they wanted, but only if we got together as a collective thought (think about that power for a second), as opposed to 3,000 different and conflicting souls constantly at war.
What we need is positive reinforcement towards the ressurection of a movement. That's the hard part.

Being a member of something should mean more than just infighting. There should be some kind of common ground that we are ALL working towards, so that we can have a real purpose. Otherwise what are we really doing here? Hanging out?!?!

I guess so.
 
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My Hats out to you Ty

Well said...I wish you guys the best in all ya do. Life is weird like that, but hey we can please them all. Unfortunetly we ain't that great we all have faults in life itself. But hey I applaud you and the whole TKA Crew for putting up with all this and doing hwat needs to be done. God Bless...Later😎
 
O.K. Now I'm Pissed

We have people coming on-line to defend the name TKA, but then they somehow lose focus and it becomes personal. That ruins all the hard work that TKA put forth in changing many minds and opening a few others because of sensationalism.
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You know you guys had no trouble in making it personal if you know where I "stan". And yet some of us with faith still doubted the intentions thinking maybe it was the anger inside.



The only reason why it went personal with me was because they were getting to personal with you guys. I can care less now. I was only defending the disses brought to you guys. So sew us. I can understand your views. As ive repeatedly said them over, over, over, and over. Now, I've started to realize what these people with hatred are fighting for. Maybe what they had to say was right. Maybe TKA are ashamed of their pasts. Maybe they are talking against freestyle and look down on it. Maybe it's just because of their pasts, that theyre going to be on this site eventhough their new stuff isnt "freestyle". I've put all of this into perspective. And i havent argued about anything about you guys. Im beginning to see both sides now. Now you guys have started to ignore me and I have been so dumb in not doing so as well, so this will be my last post about The Trademark T.K.A. I may listen to your stuff but I will never say a word ever on this site about T.K.A. I said my piece T.K.A. now I will no longer "EMBARRASS" or cramp your style however the hell you wanna put it.

Rhoq, where are you man. I wanna give you a hug.

Why should you have to state your opinion over and over again through drama that someone who probably got theirs for free is starting...albeit with good intentions, but negative results.
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It's easy, why do you have to state your views over and over on the negativity about your group? It may be for the money but for US its to keep your music alive. How stupid have I been all this long.
 
Orgntr1

😀 I TOLD YOU SOOOOOO!!!!! la la la la la

damn those are some harsh words...are u sure u mean that??? how did this get through that hard head of yours!!!!!





damn you guys, u have pissed off one of your biggest supporters!!! what happened, i mean i am glad that somethings got through to you regarding the freestyle points Orgntr...i mean if you want to wish them well as a group go for it, i have 😉
even though they took a diffrent path with thier album, i still say it wasnt bad...and it cant hurt freestyle..it gives them the chance to spread it around

tybless i also think you talked a good game in ur second post...i mean do u have ideas on how we can all come together as a "freestyle nation" to bring life back into our music???
are u as a person saying that or are u and TKA saying that???

i mean i have read posts (i.e stan) that have put down freestyle and the era...so its like where do u guys stand on this...what are the freestyle plans for tka...we have heard one members opinion on it...but what about the others...do they cringe when they think back to the time we cherish, but some they seem to despise??? i mean i hope u arent hyping us up, u know...i dont want to make this into a war, and i dont want anyone responding as if i am...i am just curious
 
So properly titled.

O,

Talking about missing the point. I never singled anyone out.. out of respect. The guilty parties know very well if they have slandered the TKA name. Some in trying to defend the group, but at the same time some do it just to make themselves look good. You haven't done that, therefore I don't think you should be upset. Those who have done this know who they are.

The point of my post wasn't to piss anyone off. It was to get a more positive focus here at CF. It was getting pretty lame watching the same ol' fight going down weather or not people think what song is freestyle and should we all accept such songs. Never do we say things like, "look they represent us, this song is good", or "they represent us but this song suck"....It was always well if it's freestyle to you, then it's freestyle to me and then and only then I can like it.
F@#K that narrow minded thinking. That's not what art is all about. I'm not going to walk on eggshells to satisfy anyone here. I see you all like family, and the way I keep my family on point is by telling it like it is, or at least how I see it. I don't bash and walk away slapping five feeling big about myself because I dissed some one. I offer words of encouragement, and I offer possible solutions to any beef or any problem. I speak of a better day for freestyle and it's fans...if all you got out of my words were the fact that you felt dissed for defending TKA, then shame on you. That is indeed what I meant by missing the point!

Regarding "Stan"
I can't say I agree with everything that Tony, K, or Angel says. I speak of a vision that I want to share with you, TKA doesn't have to be involved in that vision. I am constantly manifesting my visions for them. They will be alright.
A "movement" involves a lot more than just one group or artist. It requires squads of talented people with a common goal and vision working hard at it everyday. You O, are included in my mind when I think of these kind of things, as well as you toni, and anyone else who has so much passion about something that they love. It's about using your power as a collective to change what you want changed. A power to provide a demand that is missing from the industry for your favorite music.

That's all I was saying, nothing more nothing less. Anyone else wanna bail?
 
yea really orngtr.... what made u think he was talking to you? should i have thought he was talking about me cuz of this line too:

We have people coming on-line to defend the name TKA, but then they somehow lose focus and it becomes personal.
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no! lol... i took it as... he was talking about certain individuals who we've seen in recent weeks on this board bring up personal garbage with tka...

i never extracted from his post that TKA hates the fact that people on this board defend them. shit if that were the case, if TKA didnt want me to support them on here, then i'd be the first to say f**k you, good bye! i know they appreciate all your kind words and support, even if they dont articulate it to you directly. is that what u need? do u need tony, k7 or angel to personally thank you for everything you say? is that the only way you'll feel some satisfaction for writing what you do about them? i write a lot of supportive words, and just because they dont write back doesnt mean they hate me or dont appreciate it. dont jump the gun and start goin crazy now.
 
tybless...

i hear where you are coming from, the only negative thing about posting is the time and opportunity for some misinterpretation and having to go back and forth re-explaining when it wasnt meant the way someone took it..ive been thru that, but i do see what you are saying..i cannot speak for the others, but i see where you are making genuine and well made points...we dont all have to agree, like you obviously dont always agree with what k7 might say or think...and thats good. i like what youve said and there is a lot of truth to it. anyone who makes a genuine, concerned effort to help freestyle, make suggestions...right or wrong to me or anyone else, is alright with me. i might suggest things you might not agree with, but i still would hope i would get some respect as a fellow artist and fan that what i say or think is not at all meant to harm the music i truly love.

everything is gonna be alright..
 
damn!!!!

i wanted to say i told you sooooo!!!!

DONT GIVE IN orginator!!!! dont do it!!!! LMAO
 
TyBless, I emailed you a question personally a couple of days ago and I know you read my email but you did'nt respond. Was that enough for me to say that you've been ignoring me? We'll no it was'nt. Of course not. It was actually what topped it off for me when I would post some question s on these forums that werent answered, mentions and so forth. I would see everyone's questions answered accept mine. This lead me to believe that maybe I was doing something wrong in your eyes. So I decided to break away for awhile eventhough sometimes I cant help it. That's when I decided to Email you personally. You did'nt respond but that still wasnt enough for me to go on here and say what I said. Reading what you had posted on here about US defending your music lead me to that point. It made me wonder "well of course, that's it. That's the reason why he never responds or answers to my posts directly". I was totally angry and frustrated. I felt that I might've created myself as an enemy to you guys because of the things I say to defend your music. Not saying that what I state is offending necessarily. But I didnt know how you guys would see it. What made me angry was your reactionality views about us defending your music. I felt attacked when I saw this. That was what topped it off. It wasnt that I was insecure and was depending on your direct views for stability.

But.................

I come to see that what you said was'nt for me. After seeing your post I didnt know what to believe about you guys. Speculations going. People cursing. Hatred. Thats what went through my mind at the time. It's a terrible disease. Anyone out there can get contagious. All it takes is a couple of words from the "masters". Now I see why there are so many religions out there in the world. There' s just so much miscommuncation. Please accept my apology TY?
 
TyBless, I emailed you a question personally a couple of days ago and I know you read my email but you did'nt respond. Was that enough for me to say that you've been ignoring me? We'll no it was'nt. Of course not. It was actually what topped it off for me when I would post some question s on these forums that werent answered, mentions and so forth. I would see everyone's questions answered accept mine. This lead me to believe that maybe I was doing something wrong in your eyes. So I decided to break away for awhile eventhough sometimes I just could'nt help it. That's when I decided to Email you personally. You did'nt respond but that still wasnt enough for me to go on here and say what I said. Reading what you had posted on here about US defending your music lead me to that point. It made me wonder "well of course, that's it. That's the reason why he never responds or answers to my posts directly". I was totally angry and frustrated. I felt that I might've created myself as an enemy to you guys because of the things I say to defend your music. Not saying that what I state is offending necessarily. But I didnt know how you guys would see it. What made me angry was your reactionality views about us defending your music. I felt attacked when I saw this. That was what topped it off. It wasnt that I was insecure and was depending on your direct views for stability.

But.................

I come to see that what you said was'nt for me. And after that first post I didnt know what to believe about you guys. Speculations going. People cursing. Hatred. Thats what went through my mind at the time. It's a terrible disease. Anyone out there can get infected. All it takes is a couple of words from the "masters". Now I see why there are so many religions out there in the world. There' s just so much miscommuncation. Please accept my apology TY?
 
Tybless is a busy man..LOL..I e-mail him a lot, but he cant always respond..Just thought I should say that!!!...lmao..Dont worry ty, not mad at you!
 
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