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"Let the music play"
markluvzcynthia....
"Let The Music play" by Shanon was 100% freestyle. that record alone along with other records like "Give me tonight" Especially "Give me tonight" were Freestyle records.
On the hands of cris barbosa and mark legit on emergency records.
The records i mentioned before are indeed the ones First responsible for stirring up the conception...along with other records from yaz and others.Thats why i didnt really mention shanon.
But shannon is 100 % freestyle. She is and became the poster girl for that time period (early 80's). The sound of her records were a lil diferent and infused the shanonesque sounds on further record to come out through the mid 80's....everything from "Do you wana get away","I like you", to even diana Ross's "swept away". It was the shanon records that put freestyle as a genre and dance music (disco) back onthe radio..along with the other records like Jellybean's "side walk talk", magazines 60 "donkey jote", madonnas early material, nu shooz "i cant wait" (nu shooz ,i hope im correct,so many names to remember,lol). you get the picture.
But shanon was a really important breaktrhough. she was the poster girl for that time..and i dont know what other way to put it more bluntly (without ofending anyone). she refelcted what was going on at that time (and is happening again in todays break scenes), prodominantly black female vocalist singing soulfull dance records (seen as progressive new disco) for the first time in a long time for prodominantly latin filled dance floors.
production work and remixes being done by young latin dj/producers.
But the first first first are the ones i mentioned before. they were the blue print and prototype. there are even some records that exist that are so basic..that were not even that pop, but you can hear the influences and see/hear the way the sound developed over the years.
want more..check out cynthia roundtree material "stop seaching for love" or the early company b "jam on me".also check out other records like "colegianas' and "dance ahora" (i forgot the names of these peeps at this moment. i am at work and also..i dont have the vinyle to go look at.everything i write is off the top of my head,im sure if you ask one of these many vinyle collectors, they will fill you in.)
Those records sound cheesy, but very freestyle also.
To be honest....freestyles history..is so large. in reality only 50percent is really known......miami had alot to do with freestyle since the beginning in the early 80's. lots of miami people were already producing records and had the production actually done by as early as 83..look at sequel and the first expose. also another is techno lust "woman' and others like puol parkers "One look aint enough" (very shannonesque sounding".
people always say new york was first....and i respect that in the sence that they gave birth to the movement that is known as latin hiphop.......but it is known that groups already existed and even the first EXPOSE (the originals, who were latina)..existed and made noise way before the cover girls and others to come.
(miami was always around ever since the first days and had its waves of records. in the late 80's early 90's...miami freestyle died and evolved to house. in reality..that was the reason freestyle died the first time, before the new school movement and its second and final death.the first death was the death of miami, the second death was the death of new york in 92. but without miami, the genre as a whole didnt have a chance.with miamis death,freestyle lost halph of its army.it lost many sounds,styles and many artist,producers and promoters. Today things are slowly changing. we have freestyle figures in miamis house scens, as house is becoming more progressive and aligning itself with breaks (a.k.a) new freestyle. so in a way..partially many in miami are turning back to freestyle. this is very important today. in miami, they are crossing the bridge back from trance and progressive house and turning grooves back to freestyle).
freestyle history doesnt teach that.freestyle history doesnt teach alot of things.Of what happened yestrurday or what is happening today.
freestyle history also teaches you that nayobe and lisa lisa were the first freestyle artist. true, they were the first latin hiphop artist and fisrt recognized LATINA singers....but as far as music..it already existed. as far as artist..there already were other latin artist, they just were not recognized.
of course fever is going to say that nayboe was first...she was signed to that label. but no one sees anything wrong to debate that, as she was the first afro latin singer to come out with a record when most records were sung by african american singers. So in a way,she was kinda the first at something.
but here we go again with that fine line that people want to draw between what they achieved and what others started.
mad love to fever, i love that label with all my heart.
but the truth is..it goese way back, beyond that.
SECOND DEBATE:::
people always draw lines to sepearta their achievments from the achievments of others or embarasing contributions that others have made.
for example..and i hear this a thousand times........how those record labels and people who started biting off the new school sound and are blamed for the death of freestyle also. or over used planet rock beats.
everyone talking and lashing out at these people.......yet no one dared to point out that it couild of been High powers foult for over doing it with the planet rock. yet, every one still loves lil suzy. who actually ,although she kicks ass, became the poster girl for that and all of high power artist to come after her.
But no one points, cuz we all love her still. and the label is sure not going to take blame.
no one points to metropolitan...for duplicating alot of those new school sounding records, yet, at the same time,if it wasnt for them, we wouldnt have slaming records from laiz affair, and so many others.
no one points out how they monopolized the scene for a long time, and distributed alot of the planet rock driven records adam morano was known to do. the whole poster boi for the whole white italian kids singing over planet rock freestyle records that dominated the scene for many years after 92 (include hear the italians from canada).
no one points to them, becouse we are all freinds with them and know them as well, one way or the other.( adam morano is the bomb,very cool. elissa is a sweat heart)(elissa, i shouldnt even add you to this list,lol. but at least you represent talent and unlike the morano and philips twins(lol) and so many artist, you can actually sing in spanish and recognize!!!).
. but this label and afiliates are not going to point atthemselves.
tazmania.......oh, hellno. im not going to take it there. but i do have to say..although there productions werentthe best in quality..the records wera actually cool freestyle ghetto records.
although you heard vocals bleeding through the tape and endings of songs that sounded like the tape ran out...we in a way kinda like them.
so of course people arent going to point fingers.
but if you wana starta real debate..lets just start with that and then move on to ceartain new york pockets that revived the latin and puerto recan interest. gave revival to latin labels , but unfortunatley have an atitude like their shit dont stink, yet, no one has ever heard their records.
oh, that was another website...its defunct now isnt it.
unity is what we need
JONPITO
d'luna teh chinadoll
next step/jellybean recordings/sony discos
markluvzcynthia....
"Let The Music play" by Shanon was 100% freestyle. that record alone along with other records like "Give me tonight" Especially "Give me tonight" were Freestyle records.
On the hands of cris barbosa and mark legit on emergency records.
The records i mentioned before are indeed the ones First responsible for stirring up the conception...along with other records from yaz and others.Thats why i didnt really mention shanon.
But shannon is 100 % freestyle. She is and became the poster girl for that time period (early 80's). The sound of her records were a lil diferent and infused the shanonesque sounds on further record to come out through the mid 80's....everything from "Do you wana get away","I like you", to even diana Ross's "swept away". It was the shanon records that put freestyle as a genre and dance music (disco) back onthe radio..along with the other records like Jellybean's "side walk talk", magazines 60 "donkey jote", madonnas early material, nu shooz "i cant wait" (nu shooz ,i hope im correct,so many names to remember,lol). you get the picture.
But shanon was a really important breaktrhough. she was the poster girl for that time..and i dont know what other way to put it more bluntly (without ofending anyone). she refelcted what was going on at that time (and is happening again in todays break scenes), prodominantly black female vocalist singing soulfull dance records (seen as progressive new disco) for the first time in a long time for prodominantly latin filled dance floors.
production work and remixes being done by young latin dj/producers.
But the first first first are the ones i mentioned before. they were the blue print and prototype. there are even some records that exist that are so basic..that were not even that pop, but you can hear the influences and see/hear the way the sound developed over the years.
want more..check out cynthia roundtree material "stop seaching for love" or the early company b "jam on me".also check out other records like "colegianas' and "dance ahora" (i forgot the names of these peeps at this moment. i am at work and also..i dont have the vinyle to go look at.everything i write is off the top of my head,im sure if you ask one of these many vinyle collectors, they will fill you in.)
Those records sound cheesy, but very freestyle also.
To be honest....freestyles history..is so large. in reality only 50percent is really known......miami had alot to do with freestyle since the beginning in the early 80's. lots of miami people were already producing records and had the production actually done by as early as 83..look at sequel and the first expose. also another is techno lust "woman' and others like puol parkers "One look aint enough" (very shannonesque sounding".
people always say new york was first....and i respect that in the sence that they gave birth to the movement that is known as latin hiphop.......but it is known that groups already existed and even the first EXPOSE (the originals, who were latina)..existed and made noise way before the cover girls and others to come.
(miami was always around ever since the first days and had its waves of records. in the late 80's early 90's...miami freestyle died and evolved to house. in reality..that was the reason freestyle died the first time, before the new school movement and its second and final death.the first death was the death of miami, the second death was the death of new york in 92. but without miami, the genre as a whole didnt have a chance.with miamis death,freestyle lost halph of its army.it lost many sounds,styles and many artist,producers and promoters. Today things are slowly changing. we have freestyle figures in miamis house scens, as house is becoming more progressive and aligning itself with breaks (a.k.a) new freestyle. so in a way..partially many in miami are turning back to freestyle. this is very important today. in miami, they are crossing the bridge back from trance and progressive house and turning grooves back to freestyle).
freestyle history doesnt teach that.freestyle history doesnt teach alot of things.Of what happened yestrurday or what is happening today.
freestyle history also teaches you that nayobe and lisa lisa were the first freestyle artist. true, they were the first latin hiphop artist and fisrt recognized LATINA singers....but as far as music..it already existed. as far as artist..there already were other latin artist, they just were not recognized.
of course fever is going to say that nayboe was first...she was signed to that label. but no one sees anything wrong to debate that, as she was the first afro latin singer to come out with a record when most records were sung by african american singers. So in a way,she was kinda the first at something.
but here we go again with that fine line that people want to draw between what they achieved and what others started.
mad love to fever, i love that label with all my heart.
but the truth is..it goese way back, beyond that.
SECOND DEBATE:::
people always draw lines to sepearta their achievments from the achievments of others or embarasing contributions that others have made.
for example..and i hear this a thousand times........how those record labels and people who started biting off the new school sound and are blamed for the death of freestyle also. or over used planet rock beats.
everyone talking and lashing out at these people.......yet no one dared to point out that it couild of been High powers foult for over doing it with the planet rock. yet, every one still loves lil suzy. who actually ,although she kicks ass, became the poster girl for that and all of high power artist to come after her.
But no one points, cuz we all love her still. and the label is sure not going to take blame.
no one points to metropolitan...for duplicating alot of those new school sounding records, yet, at the same time,if it wasnt for them, we wouldnt have slaming records from laiz affair, and so many others.
no one points out how they monopolized the scene for a long time, and distributed alot of the planet rock driven records adam morano was known to do. the whole poster boi for the whole white italian kids singing over planet rock freestyle records that dominated the scene for many years after 92 (include hear the italians from canada).
no one points to them, becouse we are all freinds with them and know them as well, one way or the other.( adam morano is the bomb,very cool. elissa is a sweat heart)(elissa, i shouldnt even add you to this list,lol. but at least you represent talent and unlike the morano and philips twins(lol) and so many artist, you can actually sing in spanish and recognize!!!).
. but this label and afiliates are not going to point atthemselves.
tazmania.......oh, hellno. im not going to take it there. but i do have to say..although there productions werentthe best in quality..the records wera actually cool freestyle ghetto records.
although you heard vocals bleeding through the tape and endings of songs that sounded like the tape ran out...we in a way kinda like them.
so of course people arent going to point fingers.
but if you wana starta real debate..lets just start with that and then move on to ceartain new york pockets that revived the latin and puerto recan interest. gave revival to latin labels , but unfortunatley have an atitude like their shit dont stink, yet, no one has ever heard their records.
oh, that was another website...its defunct now isnt it.
unity is what we need
JONPITO
d'luna teh chinadoll
next step/jellybean recordings/sony discos
