Kenny Guido
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KTU just labled NAYOBE'S "GIVE ME A SECOND CHANCE FOR LOVE" as "HEART THROB". Any comments from our panel of experts on it?
KTU on HEART THROB
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AnthonyA1971
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Well, that term was around way back in the 80's. I always liked it. It's a title that says it all: Heart (lyrics) Throb (instrumentals)
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Well, I always said it and I will continue to say that "Hearthrob" is the perfect term to name our music. I also liked the term "Latin Hip-Hop" that I will use for the Nayobe single.
I don't like the term "Freestyle music" because many people think that it's Rap/Hip-Hop!
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I don't like the term "Freestyle music" because many people think that it's Rap/Hip-Hop!
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Well, I dont believe the term "heart throb" is a genre name or anything such. It may have been a name used in place of freestyle during that time but to me, today it's just basically a name/label to help specifically describe the music's sounds and I guess that's what KTU was trying to do when they mentioned it as being "heart throb".
And personally, though it sounds good, I wouldnt like it much used for the reason that not many people are going to know what "heart throb" music is. Heart throb is basically an adjective to describe freestyle music.
And personally, though it sounds good, I wouldnt like it much used for the reason that not many people are going to know what "heart throb" music is. Heart throb is basically an adjective to describe freestyle music.
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i love the term "freestyle"... i just hat the fact that its also a term in "rap"...that does annoy me, other than that i think it sounds cool as hell. im not to big on heartthrob though...it doesnt really sound cool, sounds like some teen puppy love music..i dont know im not feeling that !!!!
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Actually Kenny, I dont think thats what it meant at all. It said "KTU's Freestyle Free For All remembers Heartthrob" which was a popular club that played freestyle. KTU has been using these soundbites during the freestyle show....they have other ones that say "KTU's Freestyle Free For All Remembers Emerald City" and "KTU's Freestyle Free For All Remembers 1018". So, by heartthrob, they were referring to a club, not a style of music.
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Kenny Guido
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That's right, Freestygal. I forgot that they were doing that with the club names BUT I did hear them use it to describe another freestyle song a few weeks ago also and the DJ just called it a "heartthrob" song.
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Haven't heard that term in a long time!! Heartthrob was what Freestyle was called in the 80's.
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Oh ok...I know sometimes they called certain songs "heartbeat love classics".
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And most of the time Latin Hip-Hop...(I mean in the 80's)! 😉
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francis said:
The heart throb label.. i think is complimentary... it does suit the "style" well as an adjective... if it brings more freestyle to the air... so be it...
as far as the "latin hip hop" label.... i am not feeling it.. b/c while many of the freestyle stars are of latin origin.. NOT ALL of them are.... i think that stereo types the music too much...
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So, it could be called "Hearthrob Freestyle"! 🙂
About "Latin Hip-Hop" term, well it doesn't mind me to call it like that. I'm not a latino by the way, but I think it's a cool term. 😉
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About "Latin Hip-Hop" term, well it doesn't mind me to call it like that. I'm not a latino by the way, but I think it's a cool term. 😉
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francis said:
Not a wise choice either. Many people consider "LATIN HIP-HOP" and "LATIN FREESTYLE" music by artists like FAT JOE & BUG PUN.
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i agree it sucks when other people think freestyle is rap, but on the otherhand sometimes those uneducated fools accidently find their way onto a freestyle website and are accidently exposed to what freestyle really is.
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I'm not agreed with you Kenny. People who are listening Freestyle music since the 80's perfectly know what "Latin Hip-Hop" is? Ask to any Freestyle producers or artists.🙂
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francis said:
thats also true but im referring to the MTV generation NOW.
It's insulting to see our "freestyle" name fade away.
Frankly, it wont matter what we think because when we go to that section in the music store, "FREESTYLE" will have all the rap and we cant say diddly squat.
We have to face it, the word "FREESTYLE" that we once knew and loved is not "ours" anymore.
Like K7 said "DESTROY AND REBUILD."
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On this one, I'm agreed with you Kenny. 😉
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"YES WE GOT SOME...KEEP ON PUSHING HEARTHROB.
YES WE GOT SOME...KEEP ON PUSHING HARDER!!"
yes, hearthrob mostly refers to hearthrob music..music that was played at the hearthrob.same for the mixes on records.
The term also became known to label a ceartain period.
like 85-89 and a ceartain sound that would be records like Midnight fantasies "Come back to me", Tina b's "Miracles explode" nayobe's "second chance for love" and those type of records that held that very moody dark feel to them. they were part of that whole category latin hiphop.
latin hiphop refering to (once again) to the musical construction and blue print tothe music. hiphop beats,and afrolatin musical genres, and manyother forms of music that would be combined).
Joyce sims, curtis mantronik, and many others were making and part of the latin hiphop movement. they were not all latin or seen as latin.
but they were recognized and had no objections with the term latinhiphop.
the term freestyle came from the latin hiphop and electrofunk movement. mostly popularized through pretty tony butler. his term mostly refelcted those records that held more of a uptempo electrofunk sound. and was mostly pop and used in miami.
latin hip hop was the term that covered ALL the genre. this was also due to prodominant latin presence (hispanic and italians (in the northeeast) in the early 80's hiphop movment.
the shanonesque and electrofunk records that span from 82-85 were basically called dance. the records from the latin hiphop movement 85-89 were called latinhiphop and hearthrob in some regions. by the peak in 88-89 both inmiami and new york it was latin freestyle (the pop term at that period).
but by the late micmac era 90-91 it was changed again to just freestyle for marketing puposes. and those in the industry who felt the name wasnt proper becouse it discriminated those who were not latin. by the tazmania and late metropolitan era (93-94).......it was plainly just freestyle and those prodominantly at that time were not of latin (hispanic origin). with a new generation coming in...
the origins of the latin hiphop name and sound and the term freestyle were lost.
also the ties to hiphop.
freestyle was the way we used to dance to the beats.webo dancing!the way b-boys use to get creative. the way the earliest freestyle singers both would RAP and SiNG over electro hiphop beats and disco loops. over the planet rock.over the percusion.over the drum.
DALE WEBO!!
we have and still have strong ties to the hiphop community.
someone would ask what doese hiphop people in circles like fat joe,big pun or frankie cutlass have to do with freestyle.
sure enough, they listened to it growing up. people like frankie cutlass (known for his puerto rico anthem) produced records for freestyle artist like luis damond 'should have never let you go" and the cover girls "still miss you",even had latin hiphophouse remixes for his later material "You and You and you (clap your hands).
(today..instead of ashante singing on fat joes material, it should be people like nayobe, lissete melendez or someone who can fill those shoese and start driving back hiphop to freestyle. get it back from a generation of white and latin singers trying topass and sound african american).
stereoytpes. it is becouse of peoples not happy that others take thier name, the reason that they/we keep changing it.
the term latin hiphop refered to us..but since some wher feeling left out they opted the freestyle term instead. so we lost latin hiphop and many forgot of the importance of that name.
now many are not happy with freestyle and think it should be changed as well, while the rap world now refers to freeestyle as them raping lyrics over beats.the same way we used to sing lyrics over them off the top of our heads.
(rap,r&B, country whatever..there is not one genre of music today that isnt mixed with a variety of people.but the genre still refers to its roots. they still look to thier core audience. roots that the new freestyle generation would not accept or were not told. in doing so, turned thier heads on its core audiance, even on themselves.).
latin hiphop, dance, hearthrob whatever.
freestyle is freestyle and will always be.
as i say it and as those producers,legends and pioneers who have come before me and have also agreed.
(and i hate the thalia remake of the mexican.)
no its not freestyle. but even her, she wouldnt know its origins either.
how could she, if many new to or in the industry dont know themselves.
( i know some might get slaped by this..but no negativity is thrown towards one specific person. im just speaking in general.
it is our history and it shows us this.)
JONPITO
d'luna the chinadoll
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YES WE GOT SOME...KEEP ON PUSHING HARDER!!"
yes, hearthrob mostly refers to hearthrob music..music that was played at the hearthrob.same for the mixes on records.
The term also became known to label a ceartain period.
like 85-89 and a ceartain sound that would be records like Midnight fantasies "Come back to me", Tina b's "Miracles explode" nayobe's "second chance for love" and those type of records that held that very moody dark feel to them. they were part of that whole category latin hiphop.
latin hiphop refering to (once again) to the musical construction and blue print tothe music. hiphop beats,and afrolatin musical genres, and manyother forms of music that would be combined).
Joyce sims, curtis mantronik, and many others were making and part of the latin hiphop movement. they were not all latin or seen as latin.
but they were recognized and had no objections with the term latinhiphop.
the term freestyle came from the latin hiphop and electrofunk movement. mostly popularized through pretty tony butler. his term mostly refelcted those records that held more of a uptempo electrofunk sound. and was mostly pop and used in miami.
latin hip hop was the term that covered ALL the genre. this was also due to prodominant latin presence (hispanic and italians (in the northeeast) in the early 80's hiphop movment.
the shanonesque and electrofunk records that span from 82-85 were basically called dance. the records from the latin hiphop movement 85-89 were called latinhiphop and hearthrob in some regions. by the peak in 88-89 both inmiami and new york it was latin freestyle (the pop term at that period).
but by the late micmac era 90-91 it was changed again to just freestyle for marketing puposes. and those in the industry who felt the name wasnt proper becouse it discriminated those who were not latin. by the tazmania and late metropolitan era (93-94).......it was plainly just freestyle and those prodominantly at that time were not of latin (hispanic origin). with a new generation coming in...
the origins of the latin hiphop name and sound and the term freestyle were lost.
also the ties to hiphop.
freestyle was the way we used to dance to the beats.webo dancing!the way b-boys use to get creative. the way the earliest freestyle singers both would RAP and SiNG over electro hiphop beats and disco loops. over the planet rock.over the percusion.over the drum.
DALE WEBO!!
we have and still have strong ties to the hiphop community.
someone would ask what doese hiphop people in circles like fat joe,big pun or frankie cutlass have to do with freestyle.
sure enough, they listened to it growing up. people like frankie cutlass (known for his puerto rico anthem) produced records for freestyle artist like luis damond 'should have never let you go" and the cover girls "still miss you",even had latin hiphophouse remixes for his later material "You and You and you (clap your hands).
(today..instead of ashante singing on fat joes material, it should be people like nayobe, lissete melendez or someone who can fill those shoese and start driving back hiphop to freestyle. get it back from a generation of white and latin singers trying topass and sound african american).
stereoytpes. it is becouse of peoples not happy that others take thier name, the reason that they/we keep changing it.
the term latin hiphop refered to us..but since some wher feeling left out they opted the freestyle term instead. so we lost latin hiphop and many forgot of the importance of that name.
now many are not happy with freestyle and think it should be changed as well, while the rap world now refers to freeestyle as them raping lyrics over beats.the same way we used to sing lyrics over them off the top of our heads.
(rap,r&B, country whatever..there is not one genre of music today that isnt mixed with a variety of people.but the genre still refers to its roots. they still look to thier core audience. roots that the new freestyle generation would not accept or were not told. in doing so, turned thier heads on its core audiance, even on themselves.).
latin hiphop, dance, hearthrob whatever.
freestyle is freestyle and will always be.
as i say it and as those producers,legends and pioneers who have come before me and have also agreed.
(and i hate the thalia remake of the mexican.)
no its not freestyle. but even her, she wouldnt know its origins either.
how could she, if many new to or in the industry dont know themselves.
( i know some might get slaped by this..but no negativity is thrown towards one specific person. im just speaking in general.
it is our history and it shows us this.)
JONPITO
d'luna the chinadoll
nextstep/jellybeanrecordings/sonydiscos