Freestyle Should've Never Been On the Radio to Begin With

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I find it interesting when industry people say that artists should not do hardcore freestyle because they would have no chance of getting on the radio. Well the criteria has changed over the years as to how pop radio determines what songs they'll play in daytime rotation. For the better part of the last decade now, radio only plays records that are charted hits (Billboard Top 40). Now of course some pop radio stations cater more to a rock audience and some more to a hip hop audience so they might expand their horizons to the Billboard Hot 100. If a song does not chart, it has no chance of getting played whether its rap, freestyle, house, R&B, folk, rock, or euro. There was a unique period of time in the late 80s/ early 90s when pop music was not happening really. Most of the chart hits were rock (heavy metal) or adult contemporary (Whitney Houston). With the exception of Stevie B and the Cover Girls, most of the freestyle records that were being played on the radio would not have gotten play if the stations were sticking to doing it by the book with the CHR format. Songs like "Materialistic Girl", "You Should Know By Now", "Crying Over You", etc. were on the radio in certain urban markets where some of the radio stations felt they could get a strong niche of the listeners by playing fresh new underground music that catered to inner city Latinos. All of these radio stations have since gone back to a strict Billboard chart format, as there is a lot more "pop" music to choose from now. Maybe freestyle music would have been better off, had things gone by the book and it not have gotten the heavy radio play it did back in the early 90s. As a result, these artists feel that it's their right instead of a privelege to be on the radio. Whatever single TKA or Judy Torres would put out, its only chance to get heavy rotation on numerous hit radio stations would be if it charted. Radio executives could care less if your music sounds dated. If it charts, they'll play it. TKA could have come out with a hardcore freestyle single with a phat music video featuring breakdancing, grafiti in the background, and fine girls and that would have appealed to the youth cuz they look up to those sorts of things. Next thing you know, the songs would have started making enough noise on the underground that it might have charted and radio would have been all over it. Of course they choose to make songs like those that are charting high, but THAT'S NOT THE CRITERIA. Billboard or Radio is not impressed by artists who can copy songs that are currently being played. Back in the day, due to circumstances radio made underground records into hits. Now that "pop" music has resurfaced in the last 8 years, radio will only play records that already are hits. FACT: A song could be as hardcore freestyle as one can imagine. If it charts, radio will play it. No artist in any genre of music, regardless how their music sounds, has any chance of getting heavy CHR rotation unless their record chart on Billboard.
 
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I think you are totally right. The artist should have made music videos with the stuff that people go for. I will always say this, rap would have never became what it is now if it was not for video. Kids see the fancey cars, the hot chicks ect. Its all about image these days. I think freestyle can come back no doubt. Its just the artist and there producers ect. have to take a chance and spend the $$$ to make a sweet video. I think if they do it, others will follow and freestyle will get the respect and radio play it deserves.
 
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good point head

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radio no playing freestyle did lead to a demise in popularity but did you ever look at how quickly the masses walked away to become the closet case fans only appearing every blue moon.
the other thing is that videos were not as easy to make for groups like tka Cynthia Judy Torres etc cause we were dance acts to many at that time and videos were for the more pop oriented. thus the fact that we had no videos for 'scars of love' or 'one way love' or 'come get my love' .but with our own money we were able to do that whack x-ray vision video then we got backing from warners and did 'crash' 'i won't give up on you' with their money but when we brought them 'louder than love' and 'give your love to me' they said no flat so we paid for louder which was the strongest of the two the less freestyle in their eyes and also the one they would offer promotion for but even with all that they did very little for it luckily the box picked it up as much as you guys loved it mtv refused and with b.e.t we had to wined and dine them for only three air plays .now a days you got fuse, bet, mtv 1.2.3.4 mun 2 so your chances are better but its fair to say that without radio period you would not be able to know who suave or lil Suzy were Cynthia would have never been heard in san Jose or Texas Miami would have not gotten nice and wild or Stevie b or coro.
if we view things from today’s perspective yes we would ask ourselves why it did't happen like this but if you were there you would see how it really went down .
during the advent of the booty big car gangster video mic mac or any other Indy could not afford the luxury of videos yet again none of us wanted to interpret our songs that way back then.
towards the begining of the slow down period many of us had video cause labels loosened up but it was to little to late .
 
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Honestly I think it's #2

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Yeah that!
 
K7: What do you think about my comments on how if the CHR criteria was being applied during the late 80s/early 90s, most freestyle would've never gotten on the radio to begin with?
 
I grew up in an area where club or freestyle how ever you would like to call it was always played in a latino area. I know this for a fact because i am latino,. most of us got our music from mixed tapes,. and never really knew who the artist was or even what album to look for,. even if the stores had it for sale it would always be in a section that we are self would never look for it in. That being said freestyle did indeed fade out as a genre,. but even after all the years i've still continued to look for and find compilations and artist albums. mostly on cd to try and preserve the music,. and come to find out it still has a loyal fan base it's just a matter of getting the word out to all the freestyle fans. I strongly believe that www.clubfreestyle.com is doing a good job of that. besides what some stations call mainstream or top charts is a bunch of bull. Britney Spears,. sells a lot of copies so they say but i know of no one that even owns any of her albums i surely would never go out and purchase one,. even 50 cents sold a million copy's of his new cd the massacre,. which i do listen to rap/hip hop as well i got that album and it was garbage. but the radio stations play that. Guess thats just how it works,.. or not cause now Reggaeton his starting to be main stream in the us,.. but for most latino's we've been listening to these artist for years, what they call new is really old it's just a matter of how it's put out there. I will agree with you on one thing you do have to spend money to make money that's for sure. Every one keep FREESTYLE ALIVE it is our duty as fans of these artist old & new.
 
K7 tka said:
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radio no playing freestyle did lead to a demise in popularity but did you ever look at how quickly the masses walked away to become the closet case fans only appearing every blue moon.
the other thing is that videos were not as easy to make for groups like tka Cynthia Judy Torres etc cause we were dance acts to many at that time and videos were for the more pop oriented. thus the fact that we had no videos for 'scars of love' or 'one way love' or 'come get my love' .but with our own money we were able to do that whack x-ray vision video then we got backing from warners and did 'crash' 'i won't give up on you' with their money but when we brought them 'louder than love' and 'give your love to me' they said no flat so we paid for louder which was the strongest of the two the less freestyle in their eyes and also the one they would offer promotion for but even with all that they did very little for it luckily the box picked it up as much as you guys loved it mtv refused and with b.e.t we had to wined and dine them for only three air plays .now a days you got fuse, bet, mtv 1.2.3.4 mun 2 so your chances are better but its fair to say that without radio period you would not be able to know who suave or lil Suzy were Cynthia would have never been heard in san Jose or Texas Miami would have not gotten nice and wild or Stevie b or coro.
if we view things from today’s perspective yes we would ask ourselves why it did't happen like this but if you were there you would see how it really went down .
during the advent of the booty big car gangster video mic mac or any other Indy could not afford the luxury of videos yet again none of us wanted to interpret our songs that way back then.
towards the begining of the slow down period many of us had video cause labels loosened up but it was to little to late .


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latinfreestyle21 said:
Same here Sorry But If Freestyle Had videos it would be alot better....
they should make a nation wide freestyle show of videos updates i think it would be good
Well to any artist that read this i still wish you the best of luck
would you be talking about music videos for freestyle music?
 
A lot of freestyle artists did have videos. MTV didn't touch them.

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