Club bliss "let the truth set me free" johnnyO

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wow... after reading this.. i'm speechless...

Only in freestyle... only in freestyle.. *sighs*

Meggie, I'm so happy for u sweety that u finally met Johnny 🙂

Johnny, I can't wait for u to come down here.. ur fans are waiting for u!!! None of that BS will happen here.. so come here faster!! 😛

I love ur music sooo much... keep up doing what ur doing Johnny! Ur the best!! U really are.

Err.. are we gonna hear another side of the story???
 
Let set the record straight

I never threaten anyone and never will, I am not that type of person and I have been in this business for 19 years. All the artist know me and know what type of person I am. I grew up with a lot of these Freestyle acts. Last night a lot of them came out for moral support. That I want to thank them for. I don't think they would do this for someone who is mean.


I want to start off my saying that Johnny O or his wife did not get threaten. As far as my partner Alex threating him is also a lie. If anyone was yelling and carrying on it was Johnny O. I paid him for a show in San Jose, which by the way did not do well even with radio. They were only 200 people their. I spent about fifteen thousand dollars on the show is SJ and lost it. Now in New York, I also spent quick a bet of money and also took a loss (big loss). The reason Johnny O is upset is because I had to cancel him. I had a choice to put Johnny O or Lisa Lisa. I explained the situation to both artist. My partners and I decided to cancel Johnny O, because they were more people their to see Lisa Lisa. Their is one important fact I failed to mention is that the numbers were not there. I also cancelled one of the DJ's he was not upset, because he understood that we were not making money we were losing.

I have treated everyone at CF site with the most respect. It's a shame that people would post without hearing the other side of the story. Johnny mentioned he has been in the business for 12 years. I have been in the business for 19 years same as my sister Safire. I have never experienced an artist saying anything bad about me. Sal and I are the only two promoters that are still trying to keep freestyle alive. Even when I lose I still try to make it happen. I love the music my self.

I see it this way if he was really threaten for his life, like he mention on his post, he could have called the cops. Why he did not call them is because he was not threaten. As a matter of fact he got paid 1/2 for a show he did not do. He also made me buy airline tickets which he did not use - so again I lost money on his airfare. If he would have told he did not need the airline ticket I might have been able to afford him. It's funny how Johnny O is in this for the love of Freestyle, but when the promoter is losing money he is the first to say I want to get paid. This is not done for the fans or in the name of Freestyle. I on the other hand have been promoting freestyle parties and losing money and still do freestyle parties. Now is for the love of freestyle. No one can take that away from me.

It's a shame that some cf members would react to this post before hearing out my side of the story. Sexyangel is truly a sweetheart thank you for all your help girl. Kenny you know what I think, you reacted to soon without hearing me out first, but I am not mad. This is what is great about these sites is that you have the freedom to say what is on your mind. I feel I have to say this again Johnny O got paid half his fee just to show up. I paid for airline tickets as well as hotel. Even with this whole mess I still provided a place for him to sleep and a ticket to get home safely. Even though he did not use the airline tickets.

I think the professional way he should have handled this was to call me or set up a meeting with me.

I hope and pray that most of the cf members that know me personally, consider my side of this situation. I have no anger with anyone not even Johnny O and his wife. I know they are trying to hurt my name. If I had to make the choice again I would have chosen Lisa Lisa she deserves the repect, she was the one who started everything in the freestyle market. She open the doors for the acts following. No one can say anything different. No one can take that away from Lisa Lisa.

God bless

P.S. for those of you who called me first before posting thank you very much, for giving me the chance to say my peace.
 
... and there's another side of the story 😛

thanks for ur input to FreeStyle Angel!!
 
I didn't mean in any way to make it sound I was taking sides, I reacted so quick with only getting one side because I was literally almost in tears when they said Johnny was not performing. I mean I love Lisa Lisa, nothing against her, but my whole reason for going was Johnny O. I was counting days since February.

I'm just sorry to hear that a situation of any sort had to occur and that people had to get cancelled.

~Meg~
 
Hi Angel,

Thank you for clarifying your side of the story. I think that there is a lot though that is missing from both sides. I don't think either you or Johnny are liars. So u can see my dilemna. U both have differing points of view. Since I think you are both honest, I can't see how the two stories could differ so greatly. Johnny says that he had to give back the deposit paid to him, is that true? Also he says his wife was told that the 24 security guards would hold Johnny in the club until he returned the deposit. Is this true? I only ask because in first reading your response I don't see that you addressed these comments.

Also, if it was an issue of making or losing money that you cancelled Johnny, was this issue dealt with in the contract? For example, "in the event that less than 1000 ppl are in attendance your performance may be cancelled and the performer will not be compensated as previously stated." Thus eliminating this situation you guys found yourselves in last night?

Although, as a promoter myself, I am an event planner by profession, if you book the talent and you don't make the numbers that is not the talent's fault and so legally you should honour the contract you made with the performer regardless of whether you can afford them or not. As a promoter it is your responsibility to ensure you get the people in the doors. It is the talent's repsonsibility to show up and give the performance they were hired to give and paid for. Don't you agree?

I know that the freestyle business is not as lucrative as it should or we want it to be, but that is the nature of the beast and you know that as well if not better than anyone I would think.

Also, you have dealt with Johnny previously and I assume they were positive dealings for both of you to have the two of you to work together again in this instance.

Why would Johnny feel so threatened and worried for his safety? Additionally why would he lie? He also said he would never deal with the club again, he did not say he would never work with you again, and that ommission in itself says something I think.

I know neither of you at all, having never spoken to either of you and so I can make no real assumptions but for one, and so i choose rather to err on the side of caution and assume you are both honest and truthful people.

I think it was a very heated situation on both sides, and an unfortunate situation for both.

Just as I waited for your response to Johnny's post, before questioning you I will wait for Johnny's response to yours, if my questions regarding his stance are not clarified then, I will also ask for clarification.

The ideal is that the two of you work it out and come to some kind of an amicable and positive resolution. And I am sure I speak for everyone when I say we hope that is what the final outcome will be. Good luck.
 
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WOW , I HAT E THE FACT THAT THERE IS SO MUCH DRAMA IN FREESTYLE , WE R TRYING 2 KEEP IT ALIVE AND THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN
I PICK NO SIDE BE CUZ I KNOW ANGEL AND HE HAS BEEN NICE 2 ME, AND I MET JOHNNY YESTERDAY AND GOLD BLESS U , U R A SWEET HEART AND A GIFT FROM GOD, IT WAS VERY NICE C MEET U AND I CAN'T WAIT 2 FINALLY C U SING ON FRIDAY

I REALLY WISH ALL THIS I JUST READ WAS A BAD DREAM ,
LIFE IS 2 SHORT 2 HAVE THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN I HOPE EVERY THING WORKS OUT 4 BOTH OF U,
 
We are going to lose FS FOREVER

Why is this happening?

My first love in music is FS.

As a FS fan we have so few shows to see.

With incidents like this it will ruin FS forever.

Then we will have NO FS shows to see ever again!
 
I just got through reading this thread and I can honestly say that I was very dissappointed in seeing this put up. This was a business matter and thus should have been handled as one. I helped angel and the guys out last night, I was there from the opening of teh club till the closing. I have been in costant contact with angel in regards to this particular event fron its inception and can honestly say he took a big chance but he put this show together as the avid freestyle supporter he has been for the 19yrs he has been in the business I was lucky enough to meet Angel and his lovely wife and the great partners he does these sjows with and I have only good things to say about them so to hear that they would act in a manner like this is impossible for me to believe they have been professional about everything and as helpful with everything as they can be. I love johnny but as I stated above this was a manner that should been handled between him and angel and I have always known him to take a different approach. Ths isnt a thing about taking sides the fact is that angel and his crew took a huge loss with this show. Money should not have been an issue for any artist keeping freestyle alive and it is coming off to me that this is what it has become. As i said I know angel to be nothing but a great guy as well as alex and tal and am thankful I got the opportunity to t work with them and am looking forward to helping in any way I can in there next venture. Business should always be handled in a professional matter behind closed doors. I am truly sorry I had to read this thread and all the assumpotions made in this thread. In the end isnt suppose to be about the music 😉
 
All i can say is that Johnny O. should have performed whether the club was losing money or not. He was there, and is doing for the love of the music as well as the club and the fans that went to go see all the artists that were scheduled to be there. If it was for the love of the music he should have performed.
 
I must say like many of you I am buggin out after reading this thread, My sis has been working with angel on this last show and He and his partner/s have been nothing but great about everything...
I would've been there helping out just as Sexy was but, I havent been 100% for the past 3days. I wanted to be there to help for nothing but, the love of the music period. I am shocked that this thread went up like this and the accusations and assumptions along with it. Angel and his people take a chance on every show as we all know Freestyle, unfortunately is not Hip Hop/R&B and its a tough business to be in. I've known for a long time that last nights show was quite possibly the last of its kind at Bliss, I would have been honored to make it there last night, I think the same of the artist that he chose for last night... Consider that in planning and working on putting this show together Angel and his people chose what they beleived to be a select group of artist to perform at Bliss on it's last concert date..
They beleived in everyone that they chose,, it shouldnt be taken lightly, they had the honor of participating in an event such as this. and Those that did it for the love of the musice, the high they get from just being on the stage, the heart stopping songs they lay every vocal on.. Whatever it is that gets them going. I am dissapointed that this was the result of all of their hard work. I have known Johnny to be nothing but, an incredible artist who gives a show his all... It was hard to read this post and realize that after all is said and done.. Some artist have changed not only in the sound of the music but dispositions as well. It isnt suppossed to be about the money. And if financially a promotion team cannot complete the numbers for the show it isnt unheard of for them to say that the artist is under the weather.. that is the most common announcment you will hear.. I have worked clubs in the past and its a tough call.. Most normally, The artist and promoters shake hands... and go their separate ways. Im sure Johnny and Angel have worked together in the past and this was not the outcome. I dont think Angel or his parter/s had any pun intended on the (Under the weather Announcement) It was unfortunate that the numbers couldnt apply but, it was in no way intended to harm Johnny as an artist. I think this proves to me as a fan that sometimes it is about the money and not the love...

Angel: I think that youve done a great job.. there are not many promoters willing to risk it on every show including this one as well as the past three. I thank you and your partners for all of your hard work.. I wouldnt blame you if you chose not to do another concert after the experience you had this last time around, Its a shame that after all your hard work not limiting the stress you may have had last night in making that last call, you have to wake up the next day to a mound of accusations and then have to defend your name which has remained untouched after all these years.. Know that your hard work does not go unoticed.. you are very much appreciated but, the fans as well as these incredible artist you work with and If you continue to do this,, the artist that you will work with in the future... Thanks again and God Bless you on everything you choose to do in the future.

PS: This was a sad exchange... I hope never to encounter this again..
 
That is one thing I didn't mention but meant to. You are right SEXY this should have not been dealt with in here but privately. Unfortunatley since it has we can try and keep it fair and unbiased. Again it could be that Johnny wanted to clarify he was not under the weather as was apparently stated in order to protect his reputation, because having interracted with the fans that nite pple who spoke to him would surely have found that questionable which it sounds like they did.

And in posting that, he went on in frustration and emotion and posted more than perhaps he should have.

We can only ask Johnny why he did choose to post here rather than deal with Angel privately and hope that he responds to our questions and to those posed by Angel.

And hope that they can work it out.

Sadly, no matter how much ppl love the music, everyone wants to be paid for their time and effort, from the performer to the manager to the promoter to the venue to the radio station to the label and so on. Everyone has to make a living and at least break even on their costs and that is not too much to ask I don't think.

Ideally both Angel and Johnny would make the money they desrve for their efforts, because it takes alot to organize and put on a show as it takes to give a show and performance. Both of their jobs are equally demanding.
 
Yeah, I understand the clubs are trying to make a profit, but they should have just let him perform instead of going thru that ordeal and next time manage the finances a little better.
 
I personally feel like an ass for making my first post to this sound as though I was accusing or taking sides. I let my emotions control over being rational. Honestly, Angel has done a great job getting these events together, and sad but true, but freestyle just is not a big money market. I will still continue to support any and every show in the freestyle market, no matter who what where or when.

I think both Angel and Johnny are total sweethearts and it is unfortunate that anything had to happen in the first place. I just hope all gets cleared up and that all involved in freestyle can come together and truly do it for the music.

~Meg~
 
Sorry, Angel but tell the truth......

Sorry Angel tell the truth, before anything I am a man that serves God (Jesus) and I gain nothing by lieing to you and my fans because I would be lieing to God first...and that is not my style. Did you forget that I'm a Christian frist!!! You said that you never threaten us meaning jeanette and I...but while I was out side the car waiting for a word from my Manager (Jeanette) you or Alex your partner tolled Jeanette that you had 24 guards and that you will hold me (johnnyO)hostage till I gave you back the money which was ours by contract. This is the truth everyone!!!!

I would not lie to you...then Jeanette came out runing out of the club saying lets get out of here they just threaten our lives. My wife is a very Godly woman and would not benfit in anything with this event or sayings so when she ran out of the club I knew that it was bad.

But still I conducted my self in a professional manner and gave you back your money? But for the Recorded we had a contract and fulfilled our side of the contract and was ready to go on and perform so it was you that conducted your self unprofessional.

My friends and fans were not born yesterday...I want to say sorry to Dream girl, Latin Nation, Kenny Gwedo who knew that there was something wrong from the start...thanks Kenny.

But this is one of the reasons freestyle die in the pasted because of this unprofessionalizm. I say it again there is no misunderstanding read my post and read this post and see I have not change my testamonie.

I was going to call the police but at the time Jeanette ran out and we spoke in the car outside and knew that all the police would say is that "at this moment you guys are out side and alright...so now take this to court"! But if we would have been held hostage that would have been another cause then for sure the cops would have been there arresting who ever? Sorry we were going to call the police but Jeanette and I were out of the club and by this time seeing what was going on and remembering bad times in the past I just gave him back his money and said goodbye!

So yes we were going to call the police and fast!

Everyone here now knows the truth...I was never sick...it was all there plan to not have me perform and that is all right.
I will never do business with people like that...oh and by the way I was not the only one who knew what was going on...wait till my wife (manager) posts up and my Dear friends and everyone involed. And they will explain the truth. nice try...

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johnnyO
 
This is a shocker to me But I am glad that
Both Sides Had a Chance to post. Even though
I dont like dirty laundry posted here.

I know - Johnny O and Angel to be
BOTH stand up guys.

I also understand why they said "Johnny O"
is sick. When you doing a party - you cant stop
a show like this to explain the situation. You have
to keep it rolling.

I can also understand why Johnny O is upset.
Not being aboe to perform for his fans.

But as you can see - we are all human.
Things happen. It's not the first time -
wont be that last that little things like
this happen.

Usually we ALL MAKE UP and kiss 🙂
I think we will Stay Strong and keep
the Good Vibes Alive.

For the Most Part - the posts I have been
reading in other threads - The Pary Was AWESOME.

Thanks to Everyone Involved for Making It Possible!
 
I have nothing to gain by lying

I will not continue with this unprofessional behavior. Unlike you Johnny, sorry but you really should not involve the word of God in this situation. You did not call the cops because there was not any reason to call the cops. Your wife did not run out of the club. Everyone would have seen that happening. I will not go any further with this. You say you have nothing to gain by lying but I also don't have a reason to lie. It part of the business to cancel an act if the night is not going well. You keep the deposit and I have a copy of this check being cashed. This will be my last post on this matter. We really should have resolved this matter one on one. Not over dramatize, a situation.

I truly wish you luck and the best in your career. You take care and God bless......
 
WOW! I don't even know what to say!

Johnny...it was great seeing you upstairs in the VIP Room. Sorry I didn't actually make it over there to say hello but I figured you had enough people doing that. My whole reason for going to this show in NY was to see you perform and meet the other CF members. I was disappointed when they announced that you wouldn't be performing but overall it was a good night for me! I got to meet other CF members and I got to see you upstairs. The next mission is to see when I can catch you performing! 🙂

Angel...Great show last night. I had a blast! As I stated earlier...my whole reason for going to NY for the show was to see Johnny O but all the others performers did a great job.

I hope this can all be straightened out! 🙁
 
all ih ave to say is that this is an unfortunate event that had to happen.....

i understand that clubs are in it to make money---we are all in it to make money.....but fans who are there want to see performances-----the people who lose in the end???....FANS!!!!....we get disillusioned by the drama and feel neglected...i really wanted to see johnny o---money or naot--he should have performed...im glad i get to hear both sides...it is obvous that a lot was goin on but as a fan....i lost the performance and that hurts me the most

johnny o---hope the situation is clearing out and everything gets straight before friends become enemies

angel-thank you for all the support and i understand how the business works...hopefully things will get straightened out before things get out of control

freestyle cannot survive if we kill each other off......
 
May the Lord bless you richly...

Sorry, I involve the word of God because I am a christian and proud of it and makes me live at a standard of rightousness. I would never disrespect anyone as I was dissed!

But I didn't come to post anything evil about you but rather I pray that God would Bless your sockes off and that you would recoupe all what you lost and make tons of money.

May God bless you and alex in your future events and showes sorry it came to this. All the best Angel with all your investments and dreams and visions.

Thank you Jack and everyone but I need to focus on my album and single which comes out today and I need to promote my Album and single. So thank you for all your support and please support Angel and Alex in there future events...!!!!!!

This is my last post on the matter!

After time to think it comes to mind that we must go on so in this matter of good faith and cheer thanks and all the best.

May God Bless you (Angel) and your lovely wife and to your partner Alex and all your future promotions and concerts at bliss and please everyone please support Angel and Alex in all their events at bliss and beyond!

God Bless you all

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johnnyO
 
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