Any new freestyle?

[Wild Style]

I follow freestyle very closely. Yet.I can't think of one song that has come out in the last 3 months. I'm talking about a song that is not a demo. That is available for download.

So can anyone tell me otherwise? Remember since Jan of 2009 and not before.

 

[Kid Heartbreak]

Much of the lack of freestyle releases was to be expected. Sure there was a lot of new freestyle last year & much of it quality, but the fact that it didn't materialize into much as far as record sales or any real hype or publicity has probably got much of the freestyle industry feeling rather empty & demotivated. One must remember that the people involved with creating the music view things from a much different perspective than the fans. Last year was great for the fans, but rather disappointing for whatever is left of the freestyle industry.

 

[Wild Style]

Much of the lack of freestyle releases was to be expected. Sure there was a lot of new freestyle last year & much of it quality, but the fact that it didn't materialize into much as far as record sales or any real hype or publicity has probably got much of the freestyle industry feeling rather empty & demotivated. One must remember that the people involved with creating the music view things from a much different perspective than the fans. Last year was great for the fans, but rather disappointing for whatever is left of the freestyle industry.

I agree profusely. We always talk about the lack of quality freestyle artists but neglect that the producers are just equally to blame.

Carlos Berrios has been concetrating on short films as of lately. Much success to him. He produced quality freestlye but his last compilation left much to be desired.

It was a great cd if it came out in 1989. I guess Carlos was tring to give the old school crowd what they so yearn for. Did they buy? We all know the answer to that one. This is not a knock on Carlos Berrios. I'm just saying it's time to move on.


The sound needs to be updated.

 

[Kid Heartbreak]

I feel that the sound of the Berrios album was updated, as much as it can be & the music still be called "freestyle". It had a very modern & electric feel to it. The only way it could have been more updated is if there were rappers featured on the songs and reggaeton collaborations, but I don't think that was the direction they wanted to go with it.

 

[Wild Style]

There was nothing innovative about the cd. It was the same old formula.It was just a qaulity production of a classic sound with newer equipment. Nothing earth shattering.

Now,the Carlos Berrios remix of Judy's song. That is thinking outside the box. We need more of that.

The same goes for Edwin Ramos,Tears of Technology,Jorge Ojeda. Just to name a few of the top of my head.]

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[freestylegreek]

Too many people are releasing music just trying to get a quick buck. But with Carlos he produces top notch music so he gets my money.

 

[CPR Jose Ortiz]

It really gets old reading comments from people that have never produced anything in their life.

You sit behind your computers with your 33 pound heads playing Fantasy Freestyle as Monday Night Quarterbacks.

One minute Carlos Berrios is great and a alleged friend and now he's the guy that produced Freestyle compilations that sound dated; Freestyle Hypocricy at its best.

Then you want to elevate Tears of Testosterone who is so in love with his music that he made Amy Tori's song sound like a demo from Tron.

Edwin Ramos didn't innovate anything, he just slowed the tempo of a Freestyle song and made it progressive. Progressive Freestyle is from the mid 90's.
I agree that "See You In My Heart" is a solid song but it is nothing new.

Mic Mac has been using the same type of production from the same Producers for the last 7 years. They just recycle the same beat they have used before and never expand on their formula.

George Lamond "What Is Love", Lisette Melendez "Don't Ever Say", Julie Carrozi "Rescue Me", Bethany "You Better Stop", Willie Valentin "I've Been Waiting", Synthia Figueroa "I'm Torn", Katya "No Hay Nada", Joei Mae "For Your Eyes Only" "I Can't Go On".

ALL SOUND DIFFERENT AND SHOW DIFFERENT FORMS OF PRODUCTION.

Not like the producers you mentioned previously who never change the beats they use.

So please. Stop trying to get into the game, when the game has already been played.

 

[Wild Style]

It really gets old reading comments from people that have never produced anything in their life.
You sit behind your computers with your 33 pound heads playing Fantasy Freestyle as Monday Night Quarterbacks.
One minute Carlos Berrios is great and a alleged friend and now he's the guy that produced Freestyle compilations that sound dated; Freestyle Hypocricy at its best.
Then you want to elevate Tears of Testosterone who is so in love with his music that he made Amy Tori's song sound like a demo from Tron.
Edwin Ramos didn't innovate anything, he just slowed the tempo of a Freestyle song and made it progressive. Progressive Freestyle is from the mid 90's.
I agree that "See You In My Heart" is a solid song but it is nothing new.
Mic Mac has been using the same type of production from the same Producers for the last 7 years. They just recycle the same beat they have used before and never expand on their formula.
George Lamond "What Is Love", Lisette Melendez "Don't Ever Say", Julie Carrozi "Rescue Me", Bethany "You Better Stop", Willie Valentin "I've Been Waiting", Synthia Figueroa "I'm Torn", Katya "No Hay Nada", Joei Mae "For Your Eyes Only" "I Can't Go On".
ALL SOUND DIFFERENT AND SHOW DIFFERENT FORMS OF PRODUCTION.
Not like the producers you mentioned previously who never change the beats they use.
So please. Stop trying to get into the game, when the game has already been played.

I'm not going to get into a tit for tat with you about production styles. You many not like some who I have listed on there for whatever reason but they are quality.

As for George Lamond "What Is Love", Julie Carrozi "Rescue Me", Bethany "You Better Stop", Willie Valentin "I've Been Waiting", Synthia Figueroa "I'm Torn", Katya "No Hay Nada", Joei Mae "For Your Eyes Only" "I Can't Go On".

Thse are all great CLASSIC sounding freestyle. Just cause it was produced in 2008 does not make it NEW and different.

There were some exceptions like Lisette Melendez "Don't Ever Say" which sounds like freestyle unplugged but that was produced around 98 if I'm not mistaken. Right around the time unplugged was a big hit on MTV. There were other songs that were different on the CB album but the fans did not get into it. Go figure.


Like I said in my previous post the remix of "Hell No" is something that you can throw into any current dance set and it fits right in. That can't be said about the songs you mentioned.

I don't know how old you are but I think we're past the third grade to get into name calling. You can disagree with me all you want. Just use good arguments and leave the name calling and insults for children.

 

[cArLiToS WaY]

I'm not down with that whole "download" craze. I know we live in the age of the internet and all that, but I like having the actual "CD" in my hand. There's just something special about it.....I get so much more out of it.....and I appreciate it more.

 

[Wild Style]

Btw I just caught that "Hypocrite" comment. I don't know you or Carlos so what is up with that?

 

[Mr A.M.]

WildStyle: Don't get discouraged with Freestyle itself, blame more on the organization of it.

Everyone & Everything is so scattered. There is material that comes out here and there that, even if it came out right now, you'd find it hard to find.

I just came across Rio Diege's album on Amazon ( Sale through MP3 or CD-R ) but did we even know? ( Old stuff with a new song, since Jan )

Point being, we will be on the search until' the search has ended I've been touched by someone who has no idea how much... ok... got a Nas-T-Boyz moment LOL

In Conclusion, don't get mad with Freestyle, get mad at the ones who just do it and throw it out without promoting it the right way.

As for "What sounds new & old" to reference a touch on what CPR said, it is what you make it. If you are a fan, you will like it if it's good regardless of the sound. Now, if you start questions " Why isn't this out there?! " then we can have that debate on why.

Is there new material in the months ahead? Definitely... Just keep and eye out 🙂

 

[Kid Heartbreak]

WildStyle: Don't get discouraged with Freestyle itself, blame more on the organization of it.

Everyone & Everything is so scattered. There is material that comes out here and there that, even if it came out right now, you'd find it hard to find.

I just came across Rio Diege's album on Amazon ( Sale through MP3 or CD-R ) but did we even know? ( Old stuff with a new song, since Jan )

Point being, we will be on the search until' the search has ended I've been touched by someone who has no idea how much... ok... got a Nas-T-Boyz moment LOL

In Conclusion, don't get mad with Freestyle, get mad at the ones who just do it and throw it out without promoting it the right way.

As for "What sounds new & old" to reference a touch on what CPR said, it is what you make it. If you are a fan, you will like it if it's good regardless of the sound. Now, if you start questions " Why isn't this out there?! " then we can have that debate on why.

Is there new material in the months ahead? Definitely... Just keep and eye out 🙂

That's what makes freestyle so different than most any other industry. They devalue and even degrade their own product. Much of the old school is almost ashamed of it. Some of them still do it, but don't promote the new material at all, really. The new school has a lot of passion to do "freestyle music" in particular, however even the material that is good almost never makes it out there in physical form on actual professionally pressed media. And in the rare event that a freestyle release comes out on a glass mastered CD, good luck finding it at a retail location. There are problems with the whole infrastructure of freestyle. Much of it starts from the fact that it's hard to make money off of selling actual physical product.

 

[CPR Jose Ortiz]

My issue is the fact that people think that they have the Freestyle formula.
That they hold the key to open the doors for Freestyle come "back".

They talk about putting Rap in Freestyle songs. Something that has been done in the past. It didn't work then and after listening to Stevie B.'s "I Wanna Be The One" featruing Gabriel Antonio, it doesn't work now.

Now its put Reggaeton in Freestyle; The answer is NO.
It has been tried before and it doesn't work.

The sound has to be changed; NO. You can change the sound as much as you want. That is NOT the issue.

The issues have already been writen about and discussed countless times.

For Producers who have a proven track record to be discredited just because you want to when obviously many of you who write don't know anything about the music or what you are talking about is ridiculous.

The hypocricy comes when you are praising the Don't Look albums one month and then dissing them another.

Its bullsh and you know it.

 

[Kid Heartbreak]

I feel that the sound of the Berrios album was updated, as much as it can be & the music still be called "freestyle". It had a very modern & electric feel to it. The only way it could have been more updated is if there were rappers featured on the songs and reggaeton collaborations, but I don't think that was the direction they wanted to go with it.

While I mentioned that collaborating with reggaeton would be one possibility to updating the music, I wasn't saying that's what anyone should have or shouldn't have done. A lot of artists are not looking to go in that direction and I am aware of that. The freestyle that came out last year that I liked, I liked it as is. I don't think there was anything they should have done differently, however I do feel that there is a huge problem in the freestyle industry with people creating some really good music & then putting it away in a vault forever or not getting it out there enough to even be presented to the public.

There are a lot of freestyle/reggaeton collaborations out there and many of them are very good. Modern music has become very universal with most of the hip hop derived or related genres doing music that crosses the conventionally defined genre boundaries.

 

[Wild Style]

My issue is the fact that people think that they have the Freestyle formula.
That they hold the key to open the doors for Freestyle come "back".
They talk about putting Rap in Freestyle songs. Something that has been done in the past. It didn't work then and after listening to Stevie B.'s "I Wanna Be The One" featruing Gabriel Antonio, it doesn't work now.
Now its put Reggaeton in Freestyle; The answer is NO.
It has been tried before and it doesn't work.
The sound has to be changed; NO. You can change the sound as much as you want. That is NOT the issue.
The issues have already been writen about and discussed countless times.
For Producers who have a proven track record to be discredited just because you want to when obviously many of you who write don't know anything about the music or what you are talking about is ridiculous.
The hypocricy comes when you are praising the Don't Look albums one month and then dissing them another.
Its bullsh and you know it.

Too much juice. Bring it down. You're not CB so calm it.Unless,you have appointed yourself spokesperson for CB.

No one is outright dissing DLB but I stand by my comments. IN MY OPINION there was nothing groundbreaking from the DLB album. I did praise it because it was high quality CLASSIC sounding freestyle.

If anyone should have a problem with this is CB not you. I'm clarifying my statements for the sake of the discussion. I owe you or anyone else an explanation for my taste. You don't have to like my taste nor do I have to like yours.


Which ties into to fans who want freestyle mix with other genres. Some of us fans have progressed to other sounds and like to see fusions with other genres. It's a matter of taste. The purists will never like it. Times change and taste change. To each his own.

 

[Wild Style]

WildStyle: Don't get discouraged with Freestyle itself, blame more on the organization of it.

Everyone & Everything is so scattered. There is material that comes out here and there that, even if it came out right now, you'd find it hard to find.

I just came across Rio Diege's album on Amazon ( Sale through MP3 or CD-R ) but did we even know? ( Old stuff with a new song, since Jan )

Point being, we will be on the search until' the search has ended I've been touched by someone who has no idea how much... ok... got a Nas-T-Boyz moment LOL

In Conclusion, don't get mad with Freestyle, get mad at the ones who just do it and throw it out without promoting it the right way.

As for "What sounds new & old" to reference a touch on what CPR said, it is what you make it. If you are a fan, you will like it if it's good regardless of the sound. Now, if you start questions " Why isn't this out there?! " then we can have that debate on why.

Is there new material in the months ahead? Definitely... Just keep and eye out 🙂

Believe me...I keep an eye out but searching for new freestyle is almost a part time job.

I checked out the Rio Diege album from the previews on the MP3. It sounds good at first listen. I'll have to listen to it a lil more to really make a choice of buying it. That "Lisa Maria" sound is interesting lol.

See,I've been listening to freestyle for so long that an albumn like Rio Diege's sounds like Classic freestyle to me.

Just like when Aerosmith,Van Halen or Journey come out with new material it's refer to as Classic Rock. It doesn't mean that its outdated. It just means that it captures the mood of an era.

 

[CPR Jose Ortiz]

Too much juice. Bring it down. You're not CB so calm it.Unless,you have appointed yourself spokesperson for CB.
No one is outright dissing DLB but I stand by my comments. IN MY OPINION there was nothing groundbreaking from the DLB album. I did praise it because it was high quality CLASSIC sounding freestyle.
If anyone should have a problem with this is CB not you. I'm clarifying my statements for the sake of the discussion. I owe you or anyone else an explanation for my taste. You don't have to like my taste nor do I have to like yours.
Which ties into to fans who want freestyle mix with other genres. Some of us fans have progressed to other sounds and like to see fusions with other genres. It's a matter of taste. The purists will never like it. Times change and taste change. To each his own.

Phantazma. You tone down your musical mountains of misinformation.
It gets tiring always correcting you and your special views of Freestyle.

They have already tried everything under the sun to get Freestyle back into the main stream. They've attempted to rename it, they have already progressed it, flambayed it and sauteed it.

Fans are turned off on the recycling of old Freestyle songs like "Where Are You Tonight" and "I Wanna Be The One" with rapping in them.

Reggaeton is not the answer for its a dying genre with a repetitive loop used more than the Planet Rock beat.

Not to add that it has done nothing for Coro or Stevie B.

And you are not only wrong about Don't Look Back Volumes One and Two; You are dead wrong!

There is every type of Freestyle on those cds and for you to write opposite makes you seem like a novice to the music.

But go ahead keep on writing your ramblings so you can get corrected more than Frankie Cutlass.

And I'm sure Carlos Berrios can speak for himself. For you to call me his spokesperson only cements the fact that you just write to read yourself write.

 

[taezee]

daddy yankee pit bull or timbaland and justin timberlake arent bringing back the groove

 

[Wild Style]

Phantazma. You tone down your musical mountains of misinformation.
It gets tiring always correcting you and your special views of Freestyle.
They have already tried everything under the sun to get Freestyle back into the main stream. They've attempted to rename it, they have already progressed it, flambayed it and sauteed it.
Fans are turned off on the recycling of old Freestyle songs like "Where Are You Tonight" and "I Wanna Be The One" with rapping in them.
Reggaeton is not the answer for its a dying genre with a repetitive loop used more than the Planet Rock beat.
Not to add that it has done nothing for Coro or Stevie B.
And you are not only wrong about Don't Look Back Volumes One and Two; You are dead wrong!
There is every type of Freestyle on those cds and for you to write opposite makes you seem like a novice to the music.
But go ahead keep on writing your ramblings so you can get corrected more than Frankie Cutlass.
And I'm sure Carlos Berrios can speak for himself. For you to call me his spokesperson only cements the fact that you just write to read yourself write.

Fusions are made for fans who want to hear their genre mashed up with another. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. It's not meant to be the savior of a genre that is dead and gone.

I take with a grain of salt what you think of my musical expertise in freestyle. After all this is the same CPR who came out with one of the most crappiest cd's in freestyle history. A CD so bad it made Hot productions look like Cutting Records compare to yours.

It's hilarious that you always are so critical of every new comer on the scene. When you peddled straight up garbage.

Go head and speed dial CB again and gossip some more. I think thats probably the funniest thing about this.

 

[freestylegreek]

Mr A.M the Rio Diege album is from those f**k ups at Essential Media aka Paul Klein the guy who releases crappy music from his former label Hot Productions and is trying to make fast cash and release so called Albums but its just him releasing tracks for what 99 cents each. Dont get fooled into thinking its an album when its not.

http://www.essentialmg.com/ is the site he owned another site but i bet people caught on to his messed up shit and decided to change the name.