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with the release or preview of some new freestyle this month..we see the ever tiresome comments that follow about the music being "too eighties" that it should evolve or be more young audience friendly... let me be a strong leading voice no wait let me lean and scream it in your ear IT WAS BETTER IN THE EIGHTIES!!! EVERYTHING!!! if comparing to the caliber of what passes for music today.. there is no reason to "make it more 2008" when the current trend is to take lyrics from a rock song from the seventies and put it over a house or techno loop and wallah a hit! wow im flabergasted by the talent required to do that im floored!! when i listen to my old school hip hop i dont need a decoder ring to understand WTF is being said..however current day hip hop seems theres no problem grabbing a grammy when your weakest point is your grammar.. amy whinehouse,britney who?? raegatton over salsa?? I havent even turned my radio on in my car in over two months because i cant take the same five songs every hour on every station with "music" that makes me want to floor the gas and plow my truck into the nearest ditch or overpass pillar..

remember the eighties no reality shows(like any of those today even have an ounce of reality)..music video tv that actually played music..going to the club and not worried about winding up a 187 chalk outline on the dance floor because you looked at someone the wrong way..no internet you actually had to talk to people face to face and go out and socialize..you even knew your neighbors names and played with there kids.. no fear of terrorist threats everyday..good shows on tv to watch..great movies.. pants were worn at the waist by men no ass hanging out the back with plaid boxers exposed..being GAY wasnt considered an acomplishment or a great monumental stop the press achievement every time some famous person came out the closet..and if you were on a date it was a 99% chance if you took her home she wouldnt have a penis bigger then yours not 50%..speaking of rear entry we werent getting it at the gas pump with no vasaline.. my art of taekwondo was actually a effective fighting style being taught and not the afterschool day care center it has become today..DJs actually had to work and had to actually have talent and skill..no laptops!!.. AND THE MUSIC WAS JUST PHENOMNINAL no politics no bickering debate..no internet self professed music professionals giving pointless pointers.. it was just give me my 8 D batteries and let me step up on the block with my boom box on shoulder and try to be louder then radio rahiem..let me get in my ride put my homade edit tape cassette i made of songs i taped off the radio show to cut out parts when the commercial came on or the dj started speaking and take a long ride just me and my club music and wait for the sun to go down so i could then step out that night and get lost in a sea of people dancing..yeah we used to dance back then.. we didnt stand in one place trying to make mean faces to prove who was the toughest or coolest.. and if it came down to it beef was settled in a dance battle..not a glock.. so please alot of things have been tainted if not just stomped to shit in the name of progress.. change the sound to more current for what?? cause then alot of dudes are gonna buy it mannn..yeeeah okay.there was no file sharing in the eighties...and another thing we didnt call everybody "dude" back then ... gimme my break beat back..gimme my hearthrob..my electro funk.. keep putting out freestyle that sounds like well freestyle.. because thats what moves me and thats what moves others like me..thats what we can listen to and say DAM i miss those days and get in our imaginary deloreans and actvate the flux compacitor to shoot us back to the time when everything was better..ESPECIALLY THE MUSIC







not my 2 cents but my dam dollar and a half because its 2008 inflation!!
 
Much of what you wrote here is true, but there's a bit more to why nothing is what it used to be (factors that most peeps don't realize). Back then, everything was so new. Rap had yet to evolve into its "peak" sound (early to mid 90s gangsta hip hop). Even the kids nowadays can't step to that. Everyone knows that was the peak of rap, end of discussion. Freestyle had only been around for a few years. House music was just about to begin to evolve into the many different subgenres of itself that would take over underground culture throughout the 90s. Everything was so new and cutting edge. That, in and of itself, has an intangible value that can't be overlooked. Now, its almost twenty years later. The teens of today watched their parents kick it to all these types of "hip, young people" music. Those same teens haven't come up with anything new of their own. It would be almost impossible to improve on any of the three genres that I mentioned earlier in this paragraph. I could never imagine bumpin' my parents music on my own. The world is a different place now. Civilization peaked when I was a teenager. I know it sounds ignorant, but it's true. The world does revolve around me and my generation. I say that cuz I am a bit younger than the "freestyle generation", but old enough to experience rap music at its peak as well as the underground dance music culture of the 90s also at its peak. Had I been old enough to have been part of the "freestyle generation", I wouldn't understand the reason why this music fell so hard. Peeps on these freestyle websites talk as if it's even a fixable situation. It's over, long over. I saw freestyle's demise first hand, in process, as a teenager. They weren't even checking for it. The reason why the music is dead, has been dead for well over a decade is cuz the young people of the world can't relate to it. Romance is no longer "cool". Carlos Berrios mentioned something to me a few years back that makes a lot of sense and really does explain why freestyle is over. His quote was something like: "ultimately in the end, an artist is judged by what they're saying". The 90s was an era of the "hardcore movements". You were either a rocker or a rapper. It was all about what the artists one was listening to were saying. Most freestyle wasn't really saying anything too intriguing. That's what kept it from being taken seriously at that time. Most freestyle peeps didn't understand that. It didn't matter how good their vocals were. If peeps wanted to hear great singers, they'd check out some r&b (and even r&b made some huge adjustments by making itself more rap compatible while freestyle got more and more away from its hip hop roots). It didn't matter how much they made their track sound like one of the other emerging forms of underground dance music. If peeps wanted to hear cutting edge technology, they'd check out some techno or some jungle or some trance. And in the whole process, freestyle slowly lost whatever legion of fans it had left. It's all about "get in where you fit in". Freestyle just hasn't fit in anywhere for a long time now. It's beyond a quick fix or any fix for that matter now. The true source of the problem lies within society. How can teens relate to songs talking about old school romance when they grew up in an era where saying "mom's boyfriend" was the industry standard of society. That's the example that was set for the new generation. It's actually rather fascinating how whether they realize it or not, peeps created many of these problems for themselves by not thinking about what kind of effect certain things would have on the children gowing up watching it. Also, there's plenty of songs that the freestyle internet audience of today like that it probably wouldn't have 15 or 20 years ago and there's a lot of classics from back then that if released today, the freestyle internet community wouldn't be so up on.
 
taezee said:
with the release or preview of some new freestyle this month..we see the ever tiresome comments that follow about the music being "too eighties" that it should evolve or be more young audience friendly... let me be a strong leading voice no wait let me lean and scream it in your ear IT WAS BETTER IN THE EIGHTIES!!! EVERYTHING!!! if comparing to the caliber of what passes for music today.. there is no reason to "make it more 2008" when the current trend is to take lyrics from a rock song from the seventies and put it over a house or techno loop and wallah a hit! wow im flabergasted by the talent required to do that im floored!! when i listen to my old school hip hop i dont need a decoder ring to understand WTF is being said..however current day hip hop seems theres no problem grabbing a grammy when your weakest point is your grammar.. amy whinehouse,britney who?? raegatton over salsa?? I havent even turned my radio on in my car in over two months because i cant take the same five songs every hour on every station with "music" that makes me want to floor the gas and plow my truck into the nearest ditch or overpass pillar..
remember the eighties no reality shows(like any of those today even have an ounce of reality)..music video tv that actually played music..going to the club and not worried about winding up a 187 chalk outline on the dance floor because you looked at someone the wrong way..no internet you actually had to talk to people face to face and go out and socialize..you even knew your neighbors names and played with there kids.. no fear of terrorist threats everyday..good shows on tv to watch..great movies.. pants were worn at the waist by men no ass hanging out the back with plaid boxers exposed..being GAY wasnt considered an acomplishment or a great monumental stop the press achievement every time some famous person came out the closet..and if you were on a date it was a 99% chance if you took her home she wouldnt have a penis bigger then yours not 50%..speaking of rear entry we werent getting it at the gas pump with no vasaline.. my art of taekwondo was actually a effective fighting style being taught and not the afterschool day care center it has become today..DJs actually had to work and had to actually have talent and skill..no laptops!!.. AND THE MUSIC WAS JUST PHENOMNINAL no politics no bickering debate..no internet self professed music professionals giving pointless pointers.. it was just give me my 8 D batteries and let me step up on the block with my boom box on shoulder and try to be louder then radio rahiem..let me get in my ride put my homade edit tape cassette i made of songs i taped off the radio show to cut out parts when the commercial came on or the dj started speaking and take a long ride just me and my club music and wait for the sun to go down so i could then step out that night and get lost in a sea of people dancing..yeah we used to dance back then.. we didnt stand in one place trying to make mean faces to prove who was the toughest or coolest.. and if it came down to it beef was settled in a dance battle..not a glock.. so please alot of things have been tainted if not just stomped to shit in the name of progress.. change the sound to more current for what?? cause then alot of dudes are gonna buy it mannn..yeeeah okay.there was no file sharing in the eighties...and another thing we didnt call everybody "dude" back then ... gimme my break beat back..gimme my hearthrob..my electro funk.. keep putting out freestyle that sounds like well freestyle.. because thats what moves me and thats what moves others like me..thats what we can listen to and say DAM i miss those days and get in our imaginary deloreans and actvate the flux compacitor to shoot us back to the time when everything was better..ESPECIALLY THE MUSIC
not my 2 cents but my dam dollar and a half because its 2008 inflation!!
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Word! Let'em know fam respect peace..
 
As for freestyle music, in the eighties producers were doing the dam thing and every other song didn't abuse the planet rock sample like what I hear today from the freestyle community..And I gotta give a shout to Artie Rodriquez when it comes to freestyle it's good to know that there's still some creative brothas out there making quality freestyle music wit dope beats and great lyrics..Just my opinion much love NYF peace..
 
taezee said:
...I havent even turned my radio on in my car in over two months because i cant take the same five songs every hour on every station with "music" that makes me want to floor the gas and plow my truck into the nearest ditch or overpass pillar..
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Well said, but this sentence right here had me TRIPPING! U R SO right. I honestly don't think I haven't listened to "urban" or "pop" radio in well over 4 or 5 YEARS! I'd sooner listen to my iPod/CDs or even a DVD on my portable & listen to an audio commentary or two (I know...I'm a geek). I'll occasionally pop on the spanish radio station, but even THEY can only be stomached for so long.

Yes, the eighties were the shizzle.
 
KHB not disrespectfully but your responses are allways like a school paper on the socialogical effects of freestyle..your right about one thing the world does not revolve around generation x as much as they want to believe that ..and as much as certain voices argue that getting through and revamping freestyle to accomadate the new generation is key..well we might as well redo all the beatles songs or elvis classics so they can understand that to..the generation gap is not that dramatic but the constant argument is there and also contrary to popular belief club music is far more popular then "the internet community" thats why artist from 20 years ago still eat to an extent off the music not sayin there making 50 cent/jay z paychecks ...but guess what ladies and gents alot of people who listen to the music dont have time to sit in front of the computer all day on forums ..as far as the effects of the demise of freestyle and how it has effected global warming its really not that deep..you press play and within the first few bars a song should move you or not.. theres one thing that remains as constant as the sun rising in the east.. A HIT IS A HIT IS A HIT regardless of what style it is ..whos vocals are more powerful..whose producer has more influnence or talent. blasee blah blah de blah blah etc...you either cant wait to hit rewind on a song or you shrugh or in some instances yell WTF and keep it moving....
 
Everything was better in the 1980s

MUSIC
Television
MOVIES
OUR MILITARY STRENGTH
OUR NATION
OUR LOVE OF COUNTRY
LIFE
 
LOL Drama queens

Enjoy life....life is good...if you work to make your life good.

Oh yea and I fucking love the New Joey Kidd song....its like god answer my prayers about freestyle lol.
 
The best thing about the 80's...no Crayone 😀😀😀😀

Had to say it !!!
 
taezee said:
KHB not disrespectfully but your responses are allways like a school paper on the socialogical effects of freestyle..your right about one thing the world does not revolve around generation x as much as they want to believe that ..and as much as certain voices argue that getting through and revamping freestyle to accomadate the new generation is key..well we might as well redo all the beatles songs or elvis classics so they can understand that to..the generation gap is not that dramatic but the constant argument is there and also contrary to popular belief club music is far more popular then "the internet community" thats why artist from 20 years ago still eat to an extent off the music not sayin there making 50 cent/jay z paychecks ...but guess what ladies and gents alot of people who listen to the music dont have time to sit in front of the computer all day on forums ..as far as the effects of the demise of freestyle and how it has effected global warming its really not that deep..you press play and within the first few bars a song should move you or not.. theres one thing that remains as constant as the sun rising in the east.. A HIT IS A HIT IS A HIT regardless of what style it is ..whos vocals are more powerful..whose producer has more influnence or talent. blasee blah blah de blah blah etc...you either cant wait to hit rewind on a song or you shrugh or in some instances yell WTF and keep it moving....
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KHB is the KRS 1 of freestyle.
 
taezee said:
with the release or preview of some new freestyle this month..we see the ever tiresome comments that follow about the music being "too eighties" that it should evolve or be more young audience friendly... let me be a strong leading voice no wait let me lean and scream it in your ear IT WAS BETTER IN THE EIGHTIES!!! EVERYTHING!!! if comparing to the caliber of what passes for music today.. there is no reason to "make it more 2008" when the current trend is to take lyrics from a rock song from the seventies and put it over a house or techno loop and wallah a hit! wow im flabergasted by the talent required to do that im floored!! when i listen to my old school hip hop i dont need a decoder ring to understand WTF is being said..however current day hip hop seems theres no problem grabbing a grammy when your weakest point is your grammar.. amy whinehouse,britney who?? raegatton over salsa?? I havent even turned my radio on in my car in over two months because i cant take the same five songs every hour on every station with "music" that makes me want to floor the gas and plow my truck into the nearest ditch or overpass pillar..
remember the eighties no reality shows(like any of those today even have an ounce of reality)..music video tv that actually played music..going to the club and not worried about winding up a 187 chalk outline on the dance floor because you looked at someone the wrong way..no internet you actually had to talk to people face to face and go out and socialize..you even knew your neighbors names and played with there kids.. no fear of terrorist threats everyday..good shows on tv to watch..great movies.. pants were worn at the waist by men no ass hanging out the back with plaid boxers exposed..being GAY wasnt considered an acomplishment or a great monumental stop the press achievement every time some famous person came out the closet..and if you were on a date it was a 99% chance if you took her home she wouldnt have a penis bigger then yours not 50%..speaking of rear entry we werent getting it at the gas pump with no vasaline.. my art of taekwondo was actually a effective fighting style being taught and not the afterschool day care center it has become today..DJs actually had to work and had to actually have talent and skill..no laptops!!.. AND THE MUSIC WAS JUST PHENOMNINAL no politics no bickering debate..no internet self professed music professionals giving pointless pointers.. it was just give me my 8 D batteries and let me step up on the block with my boom box on shoulder and try to be louder then radio rahiem..let me get in my ride put my homade edit tape cassette i made of songs i taped off the radio show to cut out parts when the commercial came on or the dj started speaking and take a long ride just me and my club music and wait for the sun to go down so i could then step out that night and get lost in a sea of people dancing..yeah we used to dance back then.. we didnt stand in one place trying to make mean faces to prove who was the toughest or coolest.. and if it came down to it beef was settled in a dance battle..not a glock.. so please alot of things have been tainted if not just stomped to shit in the name of progress.. change the sound to more current for what?? cause then alot of dudes are gonna buy it mannn..yeeeah okay.there was no file sharing in the eighties...and another thing we didnt call everybody "dude" back then ... gimme my break beat back..gimme my hearthrob..my electro funk.. keep putting out freestyle that sounds like well freestyle.. because thats what moves me and thats what moves others like me..thats what we can listen to and say DAM i miss those days and get in our imaginary deloreans and actvate the flux compacitor to shoot us back to the time when everything was better..ESPECIALLY THE MUSIC
not my 2 cents but my dam dollar and a half because its 2008 inflation!!
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+1000 to that brotherman.
 
Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:
KHB is the KRS 1 of freestyle.
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Thanks for the compliment. Yeah, I'm hip hop to the bone. No one I ever grew up hangin' out with liked freestyle, except for me. I've basically been coming at this the whole time from the outside perspective. Based on much of what I see and hear on these freestyle websites, I've come to the realization that I'm not a "freestyle head". I'm a rap nigga that became fascinated with this genre called freestyle back when I was a teenager. Sometimes, the outside perspective can be quite helpful.
 
Kid Heartbreak said:
Thanks for the compliment. Yeah, I'm hip hop to the bone. No one I ever grew up hangin' out with liked freestyle, except for me. I've basically been coming at this the whole time from the outside perspective. Based on much of what I see and hear on these freestyle websites, I've come to the realization that I'm not a "freestyle head". I'm a rap nigga that became fascinated with this genre called freestyle back when I was a teenager. Sometimes, the outside perspective can be quite helpful.
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yhea but the bottom line khb is you like the music, right ?
 
lets not get it twisted i may have freestyle as my primary.but am into many forms of music people are surprised when i start singing lyrics to songs or know of bands or artist some "big puerto rican guy in a suit that looks like hes in the mob" shouldnt know about while im at work dealing with customers..when I name song titles with the artist and the year it came out wide eyes and jaws drop..im a walking jukebox actually,I can be serranading with burt Bacharach one minute and then following pavorati up and down the sacles the next followed by freddie mercury the next and finish off with some quick verses from chris rios .."they call me big pun the only son of tony montana you aint promised mayana in the rotten mansana".. its what i do to pass the time at work..too bad i cant make money at it.. and hip hop trust me I know hip hop..hip hop and I go back to atari days to underoos to pre sugar hill "good times" days..was driving with my little brother DJ 151 yesterday visiting my family in long island who actually is a hip hop DJ and was subconciously lost in a track by ghostface killer thats not normally played on mainstream just casually following verse for verse and looked over and his face was an expression of surprise..he said "dam javi what you know about hip hop"??

if theres anything more dissapointing to me then days gone by of the eighties, is the state of modern hip hop.. to me its like seeing this hot chick everyone wanted to bang in high school who looks like a leper now

based on youre respones ive seen you are a "freestyle head" KHB wheter you know it or not
 
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LMAO! @ Taezee's "Leper" comment!

Tae, everything you said in your original post is so true!
And honestly I feel bad for the youngins' today that missed out on this wonderful decade, and missed out on being exposed to the music, artists, the toys, shows/movies, fashion, the atmosphere, heck even the air! (YES air!)
There will NEVER be a time & place like that again!
Man, these kids today don't know what they missed! 😎
I'm ssooo glad I was there!
 
CultureKlashJEFF said:
LMAO! @ Taezee's "Leper" comment!
Tae, everything you said in your original post is so true!
And honestly I feel bad for the youngins' today that missed out on this wonderful decade, and missed out on being exposed to the music, artists, the toys, shows/movies, fashion, the atmosphere, heck even the air! (YES air!)
There will NEVER be a time & place like that again!
Man, these kids today don't know what they missed! 😎
I'm ssooo glad I was there!
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jeff i have three teenage kids, and bro you are so right
 
Transformers, Voltron, Thundercats, G-force
All the shaw brothas karate flicks that came on, on channel five as the drive in movie at 3pm lol great memories...I thought I was ninja after watching the kung fu flicks lmao...Growing up in the eighties was defitnitly the shit!
 
taezee said:
with the release or preview of some new freestyle this month..we see the ever tiresome comments that follow about the music being "too eighties" that it should evolve or be more young audience friendly... let me be a strong leading voice no wait let me lean and scream it in your ear IT WAS BETTER IN THE EIGHTIES!!! EVERYTHING!!! if comparing to the caliber of what passes for music today.. there is no reason to "make it more 2008" when the current trend is to take lyrics from a rock song from the seventies and put it over a house or techno loop and wallah a hit! wow im flabergasted by the talent required to do that im floored!! when i listen to my old school hip hop i dont need a decoder ring to understand WTF is being said..however current day hip hop seems theres no problem grabbing a grammy when your weakest point is your grammar.. amy whinehouse,britney who?? raegatton over salsa?? I havent even turned my radio on in my car in over two months because i cant take the same five songs every hour on every station with "music" that makes me want to floor the gas and plow my truck into the nearest ditch or overpass pillar..
remember the eighties no reality shows(like any of those today even have an ounce of reality)..music video tv that actually played music..going to the club and not worried about winding up a 187 chalk outline on the dance floor because you looked at someone the wrong way..no internet you actually had to talk to people face to face and go out and socialize..you even knew your neighbors names and played with there kids.. no fear of terrorist threats everyday..good shows on tv to watch..great movies.. pants were worn at the waist by men no ass hanging out the back with plaid boxers exposed..being GAY wasnt considered an acomplishment or a great monumental stop the press achievement every time some famous person came out the closet..and if you were on a date it was a 99% chance if you took her home she wouldnt have a penis bigger then yours not 50%..speaking of rear entry we werent getting it at the gas pump with no vasaline.. my art of taekwondo was actually a effective fighting style being taught and not the afterschool day care center it has become today..DJs actually had to work and had to actually have talent and skill..no laptops!!.. AND THE MUSIC WAS JUST PHENOMNINAL no politics no bickering debate..no internet self professed music professionals giving pointless pointers.. it was just give me my 8 D batteries and let me step up on the block with my boom box on shoulder and try to be louder then radio rahiem..let me get in my ride put my homade edit tape cassette i made of songs i taped off the radio show to cut out parts when the commercial came on or the dj started speaking and take a long ride just me and my club music and wait for the sun to go down so i could then step out that night and get lost in a sea of people dancing..yeah we used to dance back then.. we didnt stand in one place trying to make mean faces to prove who was the toughest or coolest.. and if it came down to it beef was settled in a dance battle..not a glock.. so please alot of things have been tainted if not just stomped to shit in the name of progress.. change the sound to more current for what?? cause then alot of dudes are gonna buy it mannn..yeeeah okay.there was no file sharing in the eighties...and another thing we didnt call everybody "dude" back then ... gimme my break beat back..gimme my hearthrob..my electro funk.. keep putting out freestyle that sounds like well freestyle.. because thats what moves me and thats what moves others like me..thats what we can listen to and say DAM i miss those days and get in our imaginary deloreans and actvate the flux compacitor to shoot us back to the time when everything was better..ESPECIALLY THE MUSIC
not my 2 cents but my dam dollar and a half because its 2008 inflation!!
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I was going to add to this....but then i said wait...taezee covered it all
well said my brother...amen to that
 
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