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Mussina shelled again in 16-0 loss to Tigers

BY KAT O'BRIEN | [email protected] 10:27 PM EDT, August 27, 2007


DETROIT - The Yankees hoped Mike Mussina would deliver a vintage outing Monday night, one that would convince them he still can be a quality starter down the stretch.

Instead, the 38-year-old Mussina looked old and washed-up in a 16-0 loss to the Tigers at Comerica Park.

The Yankees return home to face the Red Sox Tuesday night after posting a 2-5 record against the Angels and Tigers, who took three of four games in the series. The Yankees will try to rebound from their worst loss of the season against the 80-51 Red Sox, who have the best record in the major leagues.

The Tigers slapped around Mussina, who allowed six earned runs, nine hits and a walk in three innings. His line would have been even worse if not for spectacular defensive plays by Alex Rodriguez, Robinson Cano and Melky Cabrera in the first inning.

Even with that help, Mussina was so bad that Joe Torre did not send him out for the fourth inning. And he might not send him out for his next scheduled start against the Devil Rays Saturday.

Mussina (8-10) has given up 19 earned runs in 9 2/3 innings in his last three starts: 8-5 and 16-0 losses to the Tigers sandwiched around an 18-9 loss to the Angels. His ERA has shot up from 4.50 to 5.53.

Mussina wasn't even the worst pitcher who took the mound for the Yankees on a night when the Tigers had 20 hits. Sean Henn gave up nine runs, seven earned, on eight hits and five walks in 2 2/3 innings. Henn, however, was in the game in mop-up duty. Something more is expected out of Mussina, a 17-year veteran.

Perhaps Mussina no longer is capable of more. That possibility certainly must be considered after his last three starts.

Meanwhile, the Yankees managed only three hits and two walks off Justin Verlander (14-5), who pitched seven innings, and Zach Miner.

The Yankees trail Boston by eight games in the AL East and were 21/2 games behind Seattle in the wild-card race entering the Mariners' game against the Angels Monday night.

After Mussina walked the first two batters last week in Anaheim, Torre had talked about needing Mussina to be more aggressive. He walked only one Monday night, but the Tigers punished many of the slow strikes he threw.

Curtis Granderson led off the first inning with a single up the middle on an 0-and-2 pitch, stole second and went to third on Placido Polanco's single. Rodriguez then backhanded Marcus Thames' shot down the third-base line and fired to second; the throw was late, but Cano immediately and alertly fired the ball home to retire Granderson.

After Magglio Ordoñez walked to load the bases, Carlos Guillen smashed a drive to deep centerfield that Cabrera ran down in front of the fence for a sacrifice fly. When Ivan Rodriguez grounded to second, Mussina was out of the jam with only one run allowed.

That was the extent of Mussina's luck, however.

Granderson doubled home a run and scored on Polanco's single to make it 3-0 in the second.

In the third, Guillen doubled with one out and scored on Rod.riguez's single. Ryan Raburn's run-scoring single and Brandon Inge's RBI double made it 6-0.

Edwar Ramirez allowed a run in the fourth on Polanco's leadoff homer, but he did produce the second-best pitching line of the night for the Yankees (with the score 16-0, Brian Bruney pitched 1 1/3 scoreless innings.)

Henn was ripped to shreds, but there was no point in removing him with three upcoming games against Boston. Henn gave up three runs in the fifth and six in the seventh, three on a double by Inge.

Granderson, Polanco and Inge each had three hits. Inge had four RBIs and Raburn drove in three runs and scored three.

Granderson was 8-for-18 with a home run, two triples, two doubles, two walks, six RBIs and six runs scored in the series.
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If you grew up in the late 80s and early 90s, you already know the vibe. You can practically hear the Roland TR 808 drum machine firing up the second I mention the word freestyle. We're talking about a genre that didn't just climb the Billboard charts - it defined an entire era of youth culture. From the streets of New York City and Miami to roller rinks across the country, freestyle dance music was the ultimate soundtrack for a generation. It wasn't just music. It was the clothes, the big hair, the attitude, and the unbridled emotion of teenage heartbreak packed into a heavy bass line.

Today, we're taking a deep dive into the undisputed royalty of freestyle. They're the artists who built the foundation, impacted millions of people, and paved the way for modern dance pop. And the craziest part? They're still selling out arenas today. Let's get into it.

Shannon: The Architect
You can't talk about freestyle without bowing down to Shannon. When "Let the Music Play" dropped, it completely shattered the mold. It gave us that heavily syncopated, hard hitting drum beat that became the blueprint for everything that followed. Shannon showed the world that dance music didn't have to be mindless - it could have soul, and it could make you feel something. Fans connected with her instantly. Today, Shannon's still gracing the stage, proving that her legendary voice hasn't lost a single step. If you catch a freestyle festival this year, there's a good chance you'll see her bringing the house down.

Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam: The Crossover Legends
Lisa Lisa took the underground freestyle sound and forced the mainstream pop world to pay attention. "I Wonder If I Take You Home" and "Can You Feel the Beat" were absolute monsters on the radio. She had this incredibly unique, fierce delivery that made every young girl want to be her. Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam broke down barriers for Latino artists on mainstream radio. Their impact's immeasurable. Where's she now? Lisa Lisa's practically the reigning queen of the current Freestyle Explosion tours, packing massive venues in 2026 and showing a whole new generation exactly how it's done.

Stevie B: The Undisputed King
If there's a King of Freestyle, it's Stevie B. The man just couldn't miss. From party anthems like "Spring Love" and "Party Your Body" to the ultimate number one ballad "Because I Love You", Stevie B knew exactly what his fans wanted. His music was the backdrop to countless first dates, high school dances, and summer nights. He gave the genre a commercial viability that nobody expected. And guess what? He's still headlining enormous tours. If you look at the 2026 tour posters, Stevie B's name's right there at the top, delivering those classic hits to tens of thousands of screaming fans.

TKA: The High Energy Powerhouse
When TKA stepped onto a stage, you knew you were in for a masterclass in performance. K7 and the guys brought a raw, street level hip hop energy to freestyle. "One Way Love", "Maria", and "Tears May Fall" remain absolute anthems. They didn't just sing - they danced their hearts out and gave fans a visually stunning show. TKA became the best selling Latin freestyle group in history, and they heavily influenced boy bands and dance groups that came later. They're still performing as TKA, and their live shows today still pack the exact same electric punch as they did back in the day.

The Cover Girls: Glamour Meets the Beat
With tracks like "Show Me" and "Wishing on a Star", The Cover Girls brought a touch of glamour and pop polish to the freestyle world. They were fashion icons. Every girl wanted to dress like them, and every guy fell in love with them. They harmonized beautifully over those classic pounding beats, proving that freestyle could be both edgy and incredibly beautiful. The original lineup's seen some changes over the years, but The Cover Girls name still carries immense weight, and they're still out there touring the country.

Judy Torres: The Queen of Hearts
If you ever needed a shoulder to cry on after a bad breakup, Judy Torres was there for you. Songs like "No Reason to Cry" and "Come Into My Arms" still hit incredibly hard. Judy didn't just sing the lyrics - she bled them. Her fans feel an incredibly deep personal connection to her because her music's so relentlessly honest. Beyond music, Judy became an iconic radio personality in New York City, connecting with her fans on a daily basis. She's still a massively requested performer and a beloved figure in the freestyle community.

Sa-Fire: The Vocal Dynamo
Sa-Fire brought serious vocal chops to the table. "Boy I've Been Told" and "Love Is On Her Mind" showed an incredible range and a fierce independence. She wasn't just a singer - she was a writer and a creator who demanded respect in a very competitive music industry. Sa-Fire inspired countless young women to stand up for themselves. While she doesn't tour as relentlessly as some of the others today, her impact remains a foundational pillar of the genre.

George Lamond: The Voice
When "Bad of the Heart" hit the airwaves, it was game over. George Lamond possessed a voice that could rival the biggest pop stars on the planet. His vocal runs, his undeniable swagger, and his ability to convey deep emotion made him an instant superstar. He brought a sophisticated, incredibly polished sound to freestyle. Today, George's still out there crushing it on stage alongside his peers, and his voice sounds just as pristine as it did the day he recorded those classic tracks.

Cynthia & Johnny O: The Ultimate Duo
I've got to group Cynthia and Johnny O together, even though they had massive solo careers. Cynthia gave us huge hits like "Change on Me", and Johnny O gave us "Fantasy Girl". But when they teamed up for "Dreamboy/Dreamgirl", they created what's arguably the greatest freestyle duet of all time. It's the ultimate tale of star crossed lovers set to a frantic, irresistible beat. They gave a voice to every teenager who felt hopelessly in love. Both Cynthia and Johnny O still draw huge crowds on the live circuit, frequently performing together to the absolute delight of their lifelong fans.

Debbie Deb: The Weekend Warrior
If you ever stepped foot in a roller rink on a Friday night, you know Debbie Deb. "When I Hear Music" and "Lookout Weekend" remain the ultimate party starters. Her music was heavily electro influenced, with those bouncy, infectious beats that made it impossible to sit still. Hip hop and EDM artists today still heavily sample Debbie Deb's tracks, proving just how forward thinking her sound really was. She remains a beloved figure, occasionally popping up at retro shows to remind everyone who started the party.

How They Changed the Game
Freestyle dance music wasn't just a passing fad - it was a cultural revolution. Before freestyle, mainstream radio was incredibly segregated. These artists, many of them incredibly talented kids from Puerto Rican and Italian neighborhoods, forced the door open. They created a hybrid sound that blended the energy of hip hop, the melodies of pop, and the relentless pulse of electronic dance music. They laid the groundwork for the massive EDM festivals we see today.

But their real impact was on the people. For the fans, this music's a time machine. It takes them right back to their first car, their first kiss, their first heartbreak. The freestyle community's like a massive family. When you go to a Freestyle Explosion concert today, you aren't just watching a retro act - you're experiencing a beautiful, chaotic reunion. The fans know every single lyric, the artists still give it everything they've got, and the energy in the room's purely electric.

These artists proved that you don't need a massive corporate machine to make a lasting impact. You just need a heavy beat, a synthesizer, and a whole lot of heart. And that's why, all these years later, the music still plays on.

Who are your favorite freestyle artists - and what are your favorite freestyle songs?
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