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when was freestyle actually titled freestyle?

i was a young lad in the 80s but since age 4 in '79 my life was all about funky dance music.

where im from in canada, in the early 80s up to 1984 everything funky was all grouped together as "funk".
then in 1985 to at 1987 all beats funky were regarded as "dance music". it consisted of everything, freestyle, funk, rap, electro, dance, soul.
from 1987 freestyle was called "gino music" and thats how it was always labelled. now dont anyone get mad at that statement. im of italian decent and was one of the biggest and possibly last gino's (hair, clothes, shoes, etc) to have existed.

i recall in 1989/1990 freestyle being called 'miami' even at the dj record shops. it wasnt until after that 90/91 that i recall the name being freestyle.


so when was freestyle actually called freestyle?
 
There's usually too many opinions on this, so I won't even give mine lol. I WILL say however that quite a few 12" records had a "freestyle version" on some PRIOR to 1990! Check this out:

Spirit Matter's "Betrayal" had a FREESTYLE CLUB VERSION. That record is from 1988!!

Laissez Faire's "After The Lovin'" had a CLASSIC FREESTYLE VERSION. That record is from 1989!

April's "You're The One For Me" had a CLASSIC FREESTYLE VERSION. That record is from 1990.

There were more but you get the picture. That right there is PROOF the name existed alot longer than people realize...not used really but it DID exist way back.

Of course there is the debate as to wether it existed in 1983 or 1984 due to the following electro funk groups:

Freestyle - The Party has Just Begun (1984)
Freestyle Express - Freestyle (1983)

They had the name for their group and even song title. It's debatable...who knows for sure if this is the true origin. It can be argued in favor or against.
 
yeah i know it was around 88 because i was in the navy then and having to drive up from virginia beach every weekend to get some new "freestyle songs" which no one had a clue about except my fellow new yorkers stationed with me..i was a dj back then and sort of introduced the south to freestyle..some of the clubs down there soon turned from shit kicking country to freestyle..I dont know if its still open but our main hangout was called butterfield stage..we turned that place 360 degrees..soon you had guys in cowboy hats...having dance battles to freestyle..it was quite a scene..lol🙂
 
The first time I saw the word freestyle was when I saw a Billboard Magazine review of Sweet Sensation's "Love Child" single and the reviewer wrote about "Sweet Sensation's freestyle remake"
 
AnthonyA1971 said:
There's usually too many opinions on this, so I won't even give mine lol. I WILL say however that quite a few 12" records had a "freestyle version" on some PRIOR to 1990! Check this out:

Of course there is the debate as to wether it existed in 1983 or 1984 due to the following electro funk groups:

Freestyle - The Party has Just Begun (1984)
Freestyle Express - Freestyle (1983)

They had the name for their group and even song title. It's debatable...who knows for sure if this is the true origin. It can be argued in favor or against.
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that i dont agree with at all, not that anthony is stating so. i know from my own experiences that so many people consider the group freestyle and their toons dont stop the rock & the party has begun to be freestyle, but clearly there are electrofunk tracks. i dont consider the majority of tony butlers work to be freestyle. the majority is electrofunk. i would say 911- twentyfour-seven is a miami freestyle toon. i dont consider debbie deb's first 2 singles freestyle, and trinere is debateable. some tracks have more electrofunk elements than freestyle.

same goes with hashim's al-naafiysh. why does it always get on a classic freestyle collection. its electrofunk. no ifs ands or buts.

anyhoo, it seems that most people are saying that the word "freestyle" started probably around 1988.
 
i remember it being called frestyle as far back as 85/86.....i never knew of it as any other name untill i came on these sites and heard it as latin hip op/heartthrob and gino beats....but once again....like 85/86
 
i just remembered something...
GANGSTERS OF FREESTYLE - FREESTYLE DELUSION
came out in 1987

could frankie bones have been the originator of the word freestyle?
 
RhythmFaktor said:
i remember it being called frestyle as far back as 85/86.....i never knew of it as any other name untill i came on these sites and heard it as latin hip op/heartthrob and gino beats....but once again....like 85/86
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same goes here. i never heard of the term "latin hip hop" until thumpin' records released the bass bomb latin hip hop compilatios back in 94. i had no clue what it meant and didnt discover its meaning until coming across this site like last year.

i also purchased a uk compilation on VINYL called an introduction to latin hip hop, which the tracks had more percussion which, to me, gives it that latin flavour.

it (latin hip hop) does make sense though for definition purposes.

IMO, real fs didnt start until 1986. i do not consider shannon's let the music play to be fs, i do not consider tony butlers pre-85 work to be fs; they go under the electrofunk classification.

i think the latin hip hop was the stuff that came out 1984 until the birth of real fs. again, lisa lisa would fit in that category because to me she was more funk than fs.

fs has its roots from firstly electro, then latin hip hop, then the true fs sound was created. but both of the previous are extrememly important in the creation of the 1986/87 sound and up.

all IMO.
 
I can remember back in 1987 for 1988, a classmate of mine referred to the "new" version of Nayobe's "Please Don't Go," as more freestyle than the original.
 
Ivan Diller said:
I can remember back in 1987 for 1988, a classmate of mine referred to the "new" version of Nayobe's "Please Don't Go," as more freestyle than the original.
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there was an 87 or 88 version/remix???
 
^ Yes...It originally came out in 1984. Then, in 1987 she had a 12" of "I Guess I Fell In Love". On the flipside is "Please Don't Go"..but a longer version than the original 1984 version. ALSO, for those who may not know, there was also a pretty tough to find 12" Spanish version (of Please Don't Go) called "No Te Vayes" put out in 1985 (also on fever records).
 
i know it was called "freestyle" loooonnnng before the thugs stole the name for their (c)rap shit music!
 
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