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The Roc Project = New Freestyle Sound ???

All weekend I've been listening to the Johnny Budz remix of the Roc Project's new single "Never", and I really feel this is the direction that freestyle should move in to. I mean the song is growing incredibly popular and to think that the version that the mainstream is accepting is a freestyle type mix speaks volumes. It shows that freestyle isn't this dark horse that the world won't accept. But our beloved music has to change if it is to surrvive. Don't get me wrong it's not like it's on its death-bed. But artists and producers should look to this song and see it as an example of how to make freestyle crossover into the mainstream, and still have it keep it's freestyle roots. I look to other club and house songs and i see other examples of this... There is a popular remix of "Something" by Lasgo, that deffinetly had a freestyle feel to it.

The world likes our music, but I feel the main freestyle fan base is still trying to hold on to a past that it cannot re-create. The support isn't there from promoters, radio stations, and even the mainstream public... so basically thats the whole music industy. I was really critical of this sound when it frist came out... Rockell, Spanish Fly, MG, Laura, Angelina, Jocyeln Enriquez, the new Cynthia and countless more... I thought these people were selling out at the time. But looking back to the mid to late 90's there was a definete resurfacing of freestyle in the mainstream that has since died off. All music forms change style from time to time, even in freestyles day, there was a new school sound, a miami sound. My only question is why doesn't freestyle adapt to the new world now?

I might get alot of S**t for this post but I'm sorry I just would like for us to get back to where we were, even if it is slightly different from before. I'd like to go in the club and hear this music, to hear our music... and to see others enjoy it as well.

Jer
 
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For the most part I think Freestyle has evolved into Break Beat which is what J.B. did as a remix for The Roc Project.
 
hello

sk8r,

thanks for posting honestly.
no one will get mad at you for it.lol.
and if they do...well, you have halph the industry backing you up anyway.

alot of people thought that back then the artist were selling out, but in time realized what was hapening.
today alot of people are more accepting of it, others, well you cant teach old dogs new tricks.(actually you put them to sleep and out of their misery,lol).

there has always been recognition of the electro freestyle sound. there were many sounds inside freestyle, but eavh of those sounds or sides are more aperent with what is hapening at the moment.

ever since the "trip hop days" and still today, no matter what you call it.......it has always been freestyles electro side and roots to electro funk that has the underground and global club world fascinated.

there has always been electronic freestyle sides to records coming from hi nrg and eurodance artist of the 90's all the way to todays vocal trance artist from europe and the U.S.....and this has lines and a pattern that gose way back to the early 80's freestyle and hi nrg connection. and yes, it is more of a miami thing or need more of a miami mentality to understand that.


like rene g said...freestyle has evolved into breaks.
(hey rene!)

but truth is freestyle has always been constantly changing.
it has always been undergound electro for the past decade...it wasnt till later when djs followed the same paterns and had vocalist sing over the beats and breaks again.


it is recognized all over the world.....but it is only now that the wrold is actually learning about the actual name and scne where this sound came from.

the industry is just sitting back..cuz they dont know how to market all this new sounds..they are afraid that if they mention freestyle near it that it will mess it up for them. the freestyle industry doesnt touch it, cuz it is still new and unknown to them. even if they jump into it...they are not seen as part of the new order of breaks freestyle industry.they are mostly afraid of having a negative reaction from the established "freestyle" fan base they have : although you changed your ideals on how you feel about freestyle selling out...there are still alot more people out there who still feel its is selling out...and those people had made it hard for us new freestyle industry pushing for change.


but all this is changing and will change no matter how hard they try.

there are even some new remixes from tatu of "all the things she said"
and " not going to get us" that lean extremely to electro breaks and are freestylish...the fashion is all early 80's freestyle electro dance. and even if you dont hear it on american radio...it is hapening globaly and will all sooner or later happen here.

mtv and other tv shows are souping up their own plugs with the sounds of electro freestyle beats and euphoric breaks.
this only exposes the sound to dosens.


there are a new line of promoters, producers labels etc that are and will incorporate on this, and unlike freestyle of house labels from years past who segregated the markets.....these new promoters etc will infact break down bariers in sound and markets.

the frestyle breaks sound is just as pop as trance and progresive house and we mingle in the same circles.

answer to your question...why doesnt freestyle adapt to the new world.

it did. it adapted very well and is very accepted.

what didnt adapt was the industry and hand ful of artist.

in time they will.

in the meantime, while they sit here in front of the computer realizing or slowly accepting the changing world of freestyle sounds....

you ,me and others will be down at a trance club with other neo punked underground club kids (once called ravers)..where they start droping for the demand of nu age electro freestyle euphoric breaks.



JONPITO
miami
by the time they catch up, we will be onthe next level already.
 
Thanx for the great answer Jon... I guess theres just somethings I don't understand about our core fan base in freestyle. Back in the late 80's and early 90's, at our peak, there was a certain established sound in freestyle, the Kings and the Queens in their glory days... but towards the end of it all, Lil Suzy came out with "Take Me In Your Arms", and Collage with "I'll Be Loving You" and now to lay off the P-Rock beat cuz I know thats a sensitive subject in here... You jad TKA "Maria", and Corina "Temptaion", ect... all were a very new sound to freestyle and actually are regurded as the biggest hits from freestyle. But there weren't people in our fan base back then, that said "Hey thats not freestyle" they didn't call Lil Suzy a sell out, hell she's the "Emperess of Freestyle" now... so why now, is there such a hard line amongst our fans...

I guess what I really need here is a "Hardliner" to post and explain to me there poin of view... cause I don't understand.

Jer
 
In Canada, this song is considered 100% freestyle as our sound incoirprates electro, planet rock, breakbeat, breaks and energetic 2 step in addition to the traditional old school sound as part of our freestyle. The Roc Project freestyle remixes (including the american one done by Johnny Budz) is slowly inching into the top 20 radio play chart; good job!
 
😛 I TRULY LOVE WHAT JOHNNY BUDZ DID WITH IT..I COULD PLAY IT AS FREESTYLE OR JUST INCORPORATE IT INTO ANY OTHER MIX I'M IN THE MOOD TO HEAR.. 😛 😉
 
There's also a limited Robbie Rivera remix out there as well thats pretty good.
 
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