Old School Flava

[NyfreestyleNY]

I think the creators of freestyle back then where the reason for ists success. ALDO MARIN< TONY MORAN<CHRIS BARBOSA<LITTLE LUIE VEGA<CHEP NUNEZ< etc. are not doing freestyle but have moved into different style of music. So what we get left with is people who dont really have the style or sound that these masters have. It seems like when these people left the freestyle scene freestyle took a fall. all the legends sound great and are very talented but think,
what if Safire was out today and she had someone other than cutting records doing her tracks. I dont think we may like those songs as much. These producers had a gift and they could make stars and have. To all the freestyle legends and producers we want that OLD SCHOOL FLAVA back. No more electronica, or pop with a hard beat, we want the real NYC FREESTYLE!

 

[cArLiToS WaY]

Okay. I agree with you on some things, but I have to disagree as well.

First, what exactly is New York Freestyle? What "sound" are you referring to?

Second, I recall Miami being right up there with NY. Both cities were neck and neck, and many well-known artists were Florida exports and actually had success nationwide. "When I Hear Music" & "Lookout Weekend" (Debbie Deb) have a hint of that Electro-type feel and were they a success? Hell yeah. Expose? Um, yeah.

Third, Stevie B wasn't from NY nor Miami. How can we explain that? If I recall, he's from California. What "sound" is he from? He was a major force in Freestyle. However, his music has progressed with time, and to some he is an example of a "success" story. Oh yeah, and what about Jaya? "If You Leave Me Now" was a radio favorite and was also a national hit.

It's not a matter of Old-Skool flavor or NY Freestyle, it's a matter of quality music. Originality.

Don't get me wrong, New York is my home and I will always love that city, but it ain't the only city playing the same tune. California has some amazing producers and artists that are experimenting with Electronica, Hard beats, etc. and I'm actually feelin' it. It's different. And personally, it's where Freestyle should be. Freestyle needs to grow up.

Freestyle shouldn't be the exception.

Every other genre of music has changed over the years- why shouldn't Freestyle?

 

[YOUNG MEGATRON]

I agree , Rap< Hip Hop> Rock--Very sucsessful today with out keepen 1 certain style. NY/NJ, FL , CA, TX , MA , Canada and Europe all doin tight freestyle. To be honest , Im a freestyle junkie - In fact I have 'Planet Freestyle" tatooed on the back of my neck!!!!! Swear to GOD!! and I dont listen to half the artists mentioned on this web site!! I like the Newer stuff , but still relize who started it and who it came from. NY has great FReestyle , but so do the other States.

 

[davetheonemendez]

I feel you on the new york freestyle thing; it was part of the entire sancocho of freestyle though. A big part at that. Jellybean; Arthur Baker and John Robie along with Mickey Garcia, Mantronik, Todd Terry, Omar Santana, Carlos Berrios and the most lethal duo of all time The Latin Rascals created the New York sound. It just so happens that they were from New York. The Deejays; Little Louie Vega; Roman Ricardo, Baby J, Carlos Berrios once again, Todd Terry, Scott Blackwell and The Latin Rascals also tore shit up on the dance floors. Groups like information society who came from Florida were blessed by the new york touch on the remix of running; the version we all know today; Let's see that's Tommy Boy Records; Mixed by Little Louie Vega, Edited by the Latin Rascals, the Baker Robie touch and holy shit the remix was a smash hit! I have the original Florida version; You would cry if you heard it; and it would not have been the classic it is today without the remix.
All hope is not lost people; Mic Mac with Mickey Garcia at the helm recognizes this formula; he's gathered the editors; stepped up the production and this year is going to bring that classic sound along with the new sound back in a big way. I as well as many other editors/remixers are discussing production and we are all going to help each other the same way it was done back then; there are even some surprises on the way.............Stay Tuned!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[NyfreestyleNY]

Dont get me wrong FLORIDA, CALI, and other states have made good quality songs. What im talking about is the touch that these people have on a good freestyle song. Its just my opinion and Im not bashing anyone. The sounds can definately be heard from a NYC track, PHILLY track, and FLORIDA track. not saying that I dont like the sound they have if its quality. But when I DJ'D in my highs chool years I did have some slammin tracks from TOLGA STEVIE B and others. But I found that 90% of the stuff that was like OH SMACK WHO IS THAT was a record from NYC. Also alot of stuff is classified as a freestyle song when infact its not. Expose sonds great in a mix or by itself but they are not what I think of in freestyle. Think of George LaMond' tracks. Forget the voice just instrumental and that sounds farmore like freestyle than Expose. Expose is more mainstream sound where as George LaMond/TKA/NOEL has a hard underground sound to it. Not knocking anyones music its just what I hear. Freestyle has away of making you sad (lyrics) and happy (beat) at the same time. Todays new generation freestyle sounds too happy and bouncy, maybe the chords that are played or something but not a dark feeling...

 

[FrEEjacK]

NYFreestyleNY I back you 100% on this one!! The Freestyle of my hometown had that underground sound to it unlike many jamz out of Miami that were more "mainstream".By the way Carlito Stevie B is a Florida native. It's not in my style to knock people's opinion's but it is a fact that the best selling, most popular, and greatest labels were from the big apple.Period!! Don't get me wrong though I have great respect and am a big fan of Miami Freestyle as I wrote in a post about a month ago after having met Lewis Martinee'.It is true that those producers from years ago were the reason for it's success whether from Miami or New York. It is my belief that other places such as Philly and Cali were inspired by the tremendous effect that Freestyle from Miami and New York had on them.Because of this, places such as Philly began producing awe inspiring underground jamz themselves.Carlito there is indeed a NY sound if you know what to listen for.And yes NYfreestyleNY you are so F**kin' right today's generation is too happy and bouncy and the sound way too monotonous.

New York----> The source of it all!!!

:tka :johnnyo :cynthia

 

[NyfreestyleNY]

NYFreestyleNY I back you 100% on this one!! The Freestyle of my hometown had that underground sound to it unlike many jamz out of Miami that were more "mainstream".By the way Carlito Stevie B is a Florida native. It's not in my style to knock people's opinion's but it is a fact that the best selling, most popular, and greatest labels were from the big apple.Period!! Don't get me wrong though I have great respect and am a big fan of Miami Freestyle as I wrote in a post about a month ago after having met Lewis Martinee'.It is true that those producers from years ago were the reason for it's success whether from Miami or New York. It is my belief that other places such as Philly and Cali were inspired by the tremendous effect that Freestyle from Miami and New York had on them.Because of this, places such as Philly began producing awe inspiring underground jamz themselves.Carlito there is indeed a NY sound if you know what to listen for.And yes NYfreestyleNY you are so F**kin' right today's generation is too happy and bouncy and the sound way too monotonous.

New York----> The source of it all!!!

:tka :johnnyo :cynthia

I knew I wasnt crazy! thanks for all your opinions on this topic.