Latinos biggest supporters of hiphop!TKA included!

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I found this article the while back and I think it has some great signifance,specially in a board like this one where black hip hop and rap is constantly being trashed thankfully not by everyone we actually have some open minded people on this board and not everyone is closed minded.I'm not assuming anything about all Club Freestyle supporters and exactly what they are listening, I'm just bringing this issue to light.Latinos are the biggest supporters of hiphop and maybe thats why its so difficult for new school Freestyle to provail. What do I listen to? I listen to Latin hiphop/Freestyle music.Plain and simple. Personally there's more energy to Latin Hip Hop/Freestyle music so I mainly listen to it.This article names every major Latin hiphop artist from TKA,Lisa Lisa,Latin Rascals,Lisette Melendez to K7.That music I got it or I know it.For those of you who wanna hate cause I may not have hella posts and like some of you freestyle fanatics go for it.I know where I stand and dont really care if you wanna talk crap.Im not saying that to sound like a badass or whatever....but I know how you guys feel about the newbies and non Freestyle fanatics.Either way it's a good historical major news post about Freestyle music.GOD Bless,Omar 🙂
http://www.daveyd.com/articlelainsupport.html
 
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That was an interesting article kydd! I always assumed blacks were the biggest supporters.

I am an avid hip hop and latin hip hop (or uptempo hip hop as the writer called it) supporter. I got much much luv for both. They were kinda parallel to each other back in the day in terms of being minority run and the listening demographic. Good article!
 
Wow that's a great article.
Thanx for sharing it!
Mad props to you Omar! 😉
hilda
 
RichieFreestyle said:
latin hip hop is freestyle people
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NOT FOR MUCH LONGER!!!

The term "LATIN HIP HOP" is now being used to describe artists such as FAT JOE, BIG PUN & CYPRESS HILL.

Looks like we lost another!!!

BTW, I saw on the news before a couple of white guys promoting a book about HIP HOP. they claimed to be from long island and they were introducing a slew of artists that originated from here. they came across a picture of DE LA SOL and they said "NO, THEY ARE NOT FROM LONG ISLAND". Are these guys on crack or what? how can you say your from long island and not know DE LA SOL was from Amityville? DUMB WHITE PEOPLE!!🙂
 
well as isaid on another thread a while ago.. the BEATNUTS(WHICH ARE MOSTLY HISPANICS) OBVOUSLY DONT SUPPORT FREESTYLE BECAUSE ON TRACK 11 OF THE NEW BEATNUTS CD, THEY TALK SHI** ABOUT THE TKA AND FREESTYLE FOR THAT FACT!
 
Here is the famous article.Read it for yourself!

Here is the article everyone.Read it for yourselves.The largest purchasers of rap music in the US are Hispanic/Latinos. This revelation was made last Wednesday [Jan 15th] in NY during the Media and Advertising panel at Jesse Jackson's 6th Annual Wall Street Project. This was a well attended panel that featured a number of distinguished guests who are at the top of their field like: former Vibe Magazine CEO Keith Clinkscales of Vanguarde Media, Carol H Williams of Carol H Williams Advertising, Thomas Burrell of Burrell Communications, Samuel Chisholm of the Chisholm Group, James L Winston of the National Association of Black Owned Broadcasters and Daisy Exposito-Ulla of the Bravo Group which is the country's largest marketing and communications group that targets the Hispanic/Latino market.

The main focus of the panel was 'exploring ways in which minority owned business can best leverage advertising dollars earmarked for broadcast media to achieve their bottom line. Within the context of that discussion was a break down of the role and market share held by various subgroups and ethnic minorities. When Ms Exposito-Ulla of the Bravo Group spoke about the growing importance and the purchasing power of Latinos that her revelations about the Latino community purchasing more rap records than both whites and African Americans were made. She noted that her firm had done research and came to that conclusion.

Because this wasn't a Hip Hop panel, Ms Exposito-Ulla's remarks were not met with much fanfare and hoopla, but nevertheless they are significant on many levels. To start, as the word gets out about the purchasing power of Latinos with regards to Hip Hop may lead record companies, radio stations and other media outlets to refocus, redouble or completely rethink their marketing campaigns. Unfortunately, in many circles, large parts of the Latino community have been stereotyped as only being into dance, house and freestyle music and not rap. Even sadder is the fact that far too often folks overlook the pioneering role many Latino's in particular Puerto Ricans played in the evolution of Hip Hop. DJ Charlie Chase, Whipper Whip, Rocksteady Crew, TBB, Tony G are a few people and crews that immediately come to mind.

As the Bravo Group's findings become more widespread, this could mean everything from seeing an increase in street team campaigns to the barrios and other large Latino neighborhoods. It could result in companies placing a greater importance on marketing Hip Hop in large Latino urban centers that we hardly ever associate with rap and Hip Hop like Phoenix Arizona, Modesto California, San Antonio Texas or Albuquerque New Mexico to start. Of course a lot of 'underground Hip Hop artist already know the deal and have been aggressively touching down in such areas for years...As the music industry attempts to resurrect its economic slump, it will be interesting to see if major labels devote extra resources to push to popular Latino Hip Hop artists like Fat Joe who was just nominated for a Grammy, Tony Touch, The Arsonist, Angie Martinez, The Beatnuts, or Frost.

Long time activist and KPFA radio host Miguel Molina of the popular low rider show La Onda Bajita noted that he wasn't surprised by the findings. He explained that there is along history of Latinos embracing and supporting Funk and soul music. He explained that many of the 'old school' acts that fit these genres have known for years that probably their biggest fan base and support has been within the Latino community. He pointed out the music make up of his show and explained how OGs from the barrio have always listened to old school funk and soul. Hence he was not surprised to see the trend continue with Hip Hop. The sad part is that far too often this hasn't been openly spoken about and recognized. He also noted that outside factors in particular the music industry itself has done things in the area of marketing to create the illusion that Latinos and African Americans are somehow separate.

It will also be interesting to see if major labels and commercial radio continue their nasty practice of racial separation. I always remind people that once upon a time Hip Hop was together with all its participants under one umbrella. In the mid 80s you started to see a separation when industry folks started labeling uptempo Hip Hop as 'Latin Freestyle' even though most of it would've come under the umbrella of what Afrika Bambaataa originally called Electro-Funk. Suddenly this music genre along with popular groundbreaking deejays like the Latin Rascals weren't seen as being part of Hip Hop.

Because of this industry inspired separation many of us have forgotten that in many parts of the country 'Latin Freestyle' music was listened to and enjoyed by both African American and Latino audiences. Joyce Sims, Shannon, Hashim, Debbie Deb, Freestyle, Lisette Melindez, Lisa Lisa, TKA, K-7 are some of the artist I routinely heard in both Black and Latino niteclubs as well as urban radio stations that reached both communities. We even forget that many of these artists and their records were staple items in the crates of all Hip Hop deejays. A quick listen to some old New Music Seminar tapes from the mid 80s during the Deejay Battles for World Supremacy easily bear this out.

This separation trend continued in the late '80s and early 90s, when rap music was broken down further and we started to see a new categorizing of music where you suddenly had 'Latino rap' and 'regular' rap. Soon you rarely saw popular Latino artists at the time like Lighter Shade of Brown, The Mexicanz, Cypress Hill and even Kid Frost performing on the same stage or played on the same radio station as their African American rap brethren.

In many cases Latino Hip Hop artists were used as caveats on radio stations as a way to attract the Latino audience and separate competing radio stations that are now owned by the same company in the age of consolidation. I recall vividly seeing marching orders handed down by corporate big wigs that forbade us at KMEL from playing certain Latin Hip Hop artist that were being embraced our competing sister station KYLD whose mission was to target the Latino community. Suddenly groups like Lighter Shade of Brown, Kid Frost, Funky Aztecs, Aztlan Nation, The Mexicanz and others could no longer be heard on our airwaves because we were supposed be targeting an African American audience. I recall how much drama was caused when we started to play groups like Cypress Hill and how things really became a sore point when they actually began hosting a show. If that not enough there was even an issue made when some of our Latino deejays like [Chuy Gomez] would speak Spanglish on the air. The corporate edict was very clear. One station for Blacks the other for Latinos.

I also remember having numerous conversations with some of these Latino Hip Hoppers and hearing how frustrated they were with radio station politics. Many of them saw themselves as emcees and Hip Hoppers first and the music they made was for everyone. They resented being segregated on the airwaves especially since many of them had strong ties in the African American community. For example The Funky Aztecs did a song with 2Pac [Slipping Into Darkness]. Kid Frost has done songs with artist like Daz and was no stranger to African Americans during LA's early Hip Hop scene. In fact he primarily rapped in English and was encouraged to flip rhymes in Spanish by another Latino pioneering emcee-Whipper Whip of NY's famed Fantastic Romantic Five.

Frost in turn was produced by Tony G who was pioneering deejay who was part of the Mixmasters from LA's legendary rap radio station KDAY which was a fixture in the African American community. Also on board was another talented Latino deejay named Julio G. Old KDAY listeners will recall that it was a Latino named MC O [Orlando] was the host of that show. After KDAY died out one of the more popular Hip Hop shows that emerged on LA's Power 106 was hosted by some Latino Brothers known as the Baka Boyz who kicked up dust and made noise with their show Friday Nite Flavas.

In spite all that interaction, in many places there was still music segregation. You had Latino Hip Hop and regular Hip Hop. It was artist like Big Pun who helped close that gap. In fact I recall speaking with Pun and him telling me that he was very much aware of the Black-Latino separation in Hip Hop music. That was one of the reasons he chanted 'Boriqua-Morena' [Puero Rican-Black] in his hit song 'Still A Player' He wanted to create a sense of unity and remind people that Blacks and Latinos have always been down with one another. His partner Fat Joe has also been a strong advocate of keeping everyone together. He has supported that commitment with his actions like showing up at Minister's Farrakhan's Hip Hop Peace Summit in '96 after the Notorious BIG was killed and addressing that issue. He later followed suit at Russell Simmons Hip Hop summit in 2001 and voiced similar concerns. Unfortunately racial politics and segregation are still a reality in the marketing schemes of radio stations and the music industry. Perhaps it will one day be completely eliminated.

In the meantime because this has now been so ingrained it will also be interesting to see if African American and white Hip Hop fans reach out and seek out underground Latino rap artist who's names don't appear on MTV or BET or will they continue to see the music as separate from the rest of Hip Hop. It will also be interesting to see how this all plays out now that the new Census studies have come out and announced that Latino's are officially the nation's second largest minority population. As was mentioned earlier, we see this in commercial radio, where it is freely admitted and widely known that obtaining a large Latino audience is desirable and economically advantageous. Ms Exposito-Ulla explained that the Latino audience is now seen as a 'mainstream' market where all the stops are pulled out by companies to reach and cultivate that audience.

Also of interest to note that there has been a lot of research, articles and forums being held all over the country as of late where folks are researching and chronicling the unique contributions and history of Latino's in Hip Hop. For example, Popmaster Fabel of the Rocksteady Crew is busy finishing up a documentary that focuses on fashion the pioneering days of Hip Hop. He has paid special attention to the years and activities leading up to Hip Hop emerging in his Spanish Harlem neighborhood. The rough cuts that I've seen are absolutely incredible and will undoubtly turn heads and spark interest. Crazy Legs who is the president of Rocksteady noted that next year he will be taking the annual Rocksteady Crew celebration on the road. There's no doubt that with these new findings that he will have to at least consider touching down in those cities and places where there are large Latino populations. We'll keep you posted. Hopefully the new census count and these new findings about Latinos and Hip Hop doesn't wind up being a short lived trend that major labels and corporations try to exploit.Here is the websitehttp://www.daveyd.com/articlelainsupport.html GOD Bless, Omar 🙂
 
Roxygurl what did they say?The Beatnuts always have hung out with alot of Latino dance music artists like Proyecto Uno,Magic Juan,Angie Martinez,Marc Anthony,Barrio Boyzz,Fat Joe so why would they talk smack about well respected Latino music legends TKA?It doesn't make no sense.GOD Bless,Omar 🙂
 
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SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF "THIS AINT NO FREESTYLE SHIT LIKE THE TKA"
AND AS THEY SAID TKA- WHEN THEY SAID TKA- THEY MADE THERE VOICE SOUND LIKE A GIRL!
 
I DONT HAVE IT ON ME..BUT ITS TRACK 11 OR 10.
NOT TO SURE WHAT THE SONG IS CALLED.. BUT DEF. WILL UPDATE YOU WITH IT.
 
I am sure the Beatnuts were probably jokingly saying it in a manner of a young lady drooling over TKA.Back in the heydays of Freestyle it was TKA who dominated the teen magazines,music shows and the walls of young ladies nationwide.TKA were on magazines like Teen Machine,Tiger Beat,Latin teen and seventeen.If not then TKA can make fun of the Beatnuts because they have been known to rap Native American racism and drop anti Latino/Hispanic verses like a few rappers who sell out on Latinos.They are mostly Latino rappers or Native Americans but they are not many of them.If that was a cheap shot against Hispanics and Latin music because they hate what the Spanish did taking most of the Americas from the Native Americans well no one ever said the Beatnuts were from America.They are no Coya Indians in America.I said they were from the mountains of Bolivia and Peru where all their Coya Indian family are orginally from.Here look at Beatnuts family reunion http://www.sanca.com.ar/coyas.htm well them to say hello to uncle spear chucker from me.Maybe TKA can showcase this to the Beatnuts on a new TKA video or single.Since on the Beatnuts album a mussical massacre they were painted red on the album cover.Beatnuts are mad because they are no longer famous and stopped selling records like they did before.TKA and other Latino artists are doing very well and are still famous while the Beatnnuts hits have come to a complete stop.The Beatnuts they were underground got big and fell down again however from the looks of this picture maybe they can pick themselves up again and I mean literaly with their tails.Check out the Beatnuts right here http://www.mccsc.edu/~shagen/monkeys.jpg look familiar?!Always,Omar :boing
 
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please let me know the name of that song.i never heard any rappers mentioning tka before.you better not be making this shit up!if you cant even think of the name of the song,that leads me to believe youre lying.if youre not lying you would be able to provide us with the name of that disrespectful song.which if its true then i wont buy another beatnuts album for dissing tka.its jealousy on their part,if you ask me
 
The Beatnuts are KRAZY!!! Luv their shyt! I didn't get the last cd but I have the ones before it. If it's tru, TKA ain't the only ones these guys aren't feelin'. lol! Psycho Les is on J.Lo's azz! Seems she didn't bother to consult with them before borrowing the "Off The Books" beat. This now makes her an official "Beat Biter"!!!

Bad J.Lo

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tonyalso7 said:
please let me know the name of that song.i never heard any rappers mentioning tka before.you better not be making this shit up!if you cant even think of the name of the song,that leads me to believe youre lying.if youre not lying you would be able to provide us with the name of that disrespectful song.which if its true then i wont buy another beatnuts album for dissing tka.its jealousy on their part,if you ask me
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I BELIEVE THE NAME OF THE SONG IS "BIONIC". TRY THAT ONE HAVE THE CD AT HOME AND IM AT WORK RIGHT NOW.
 
The song goes: "I aint TKA so don't ask me to freestyle..."
No one loves freestyle more than me and I really do not think that Beatnuts are jealous of TKA. Beatnuts would outsell TKA nowadays easy. Still, even though Beatnuts and their underground hip hop style has fell off, they are far more respected in the hood than TKA, especially after TKA sold out and went completely pop back in 2001. TKA lost a lot of love on the streets. They sold out and are paying the price.
 
That's not the first time that a rapper dissed freestyle music.Naughty by Nature rapped on "hip hop hooray" something along the lines of .....i ain't trying to hang with a freestyle fan who thinks he's handsome.Craig Mak rapped on "new flava in your ear".....pump that freestlye then you bound to get shot.
 
FreestyleHead said:
The song goes: "I aint TKA so don't ask me to freestyle..."
No one loves freestyle more than me and I really do not think that Beatnuts are jealous of TKA. Beatnuts would outsell TKA nowadays easy. Still, even though Beatnuts and their underground hip hop style has fell off, they are far more respected in the hood than TKA, especially after TKA sold out and went completely pop back in 2001. TKA lost a lot of love on the streets. They sold out and are paying the price.
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SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT-BUT WHEN THEY SAID IT, IT WAS A GIRL VOICE...RIGHT????? :rolleyes
 
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